what is extreme leftism? or how is the left extreme?

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is it extreme to want equality and things like a living wage? i dont get it lol

[SwimModSponges]

We want to take people's guns without due process, like Trump said he wanted to do.

[midnight]

I was going to answer this seriously, but since you posted this in FFA, I will answer it accordingly.

Everyone is paid a living wage. It's how you choose to live that determines if you are living beyond your means or not.

You complain about not being paid enough, yet you go to hotels all the time to bang some random dudes. You had to pay over 6k down on a car. 

You have several phones. You are always eating out. You pay your bills. 

So, you ARE being paid enough. Even more than enough, since you throw money away on frivolous items, constantly. 

You didn't actually need a second job, but you took one so you can throw away even more money. It's no one's fault but your own for not having a skilled trade. Which would pay you what you're worth. So, you are paid what the company YOU chose to work for, thinks you are worth. 

There's your FFA answer.

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15 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said:

We want to take people's guns without due process, like Trump said he wanted to do.

wanting a pollution free earth and fighting climate change? EXTREME!!!

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4 minutes ago, midnight said:

I was going to answer this seriously, but since you posted this in FFA, I will answer it accordingly.

Everyone is paid a living wage. It's how you choose to live that determines if you are living beyond your means or not.

You complain about not being paid enough, yet you go to hotels all the time to bang some random dudes. You had to pay over 6k down on a car. 

You have several phones. You are always eating out. You pay your bills. 

So, you ARE being paid enough. Even more than enough, since you throw money away on frivolous items, constantly. 

You didn't actually need a second job, but you took one so you can throw away even more money. It's no one's fault but your own for not having a skilled trade. Which would pay you what you're worth. So, you are paid what the company YOU chose to work for, thinks you are worth. 

There's your FFA answer.

im paid a living wage motherfucker. why is having compassion and wanting everyone to live comfortably EXTREME

[midnight]

3 minutes ago, fuggstop said:

im paid a living wage motherfucker. why is having compassion and wanting everyone to live comfortably EXTREME

Because I don't care about anyone else's problems.

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1 minute ago, midnight said:

Because I don't care about anyone else's problems.

yah. typical white male. 

[midnight]

1 minute ago, fuggstop said:

yah. typical white male. 

Racist.

[Skiles]

It gets extreme when people on both sides decide to "cancel" anyone who disagrees with their point of view.

It's like when JonTron said what he said (you can look it all up if you want, I don't feel like getting into it), and everyone was like "HE'S A WHITE NATIONALIST WHO HATES FOREIGNERS" even though he's Iranian-American and his parent are off-the-boat Iranian. So the internet tried to cancel him. They failed, thankfully, because I enjoy his content. But that's one example of the extreme left trying to ruin a person's career just because he has views that skew farther right than they're comfortable with. That's not a cool thing to do.

God forbid a motherfucker have a different opinion than someone else.

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5 minutes ago, Skiles said:

It gets extreme when people on both sides decide to "cancel" anyone who disagrees with their point of view.

It's like when JonTron said what he said (you can look it all up if you want, I don't feel like getting into it), and everyone was like "HE'S A WHITE NATIONALIST WHO HATES FOREIGNERS" even though he's Iranian-American and his parent are off-the-boat Iranian. So the internet tried to cancel him. They failed, thankfully, because I enjoy his content. But that's one example of the extreme left trying to ruin a person's career just because he has views that skew farther right than they're comfortable with. That's not a cool thing to do.

God forbid a motherfucker have a different opinion than someone else.

thanks for giving me a real explanation and not trolling

[SwimModSponges]

"the internet tried to cancel him" is a weird way to say a lot of people chose not to watch him play video games when he said  "different cultures can't live together in a stable society." 

The Dixie Chicks have a lifetime ban on most country music stations because they criticized then-president Bush.

That sounds a lot more career ending.

Edited May 21, 2019 by SwimModSponges

[Swimmod_Luna]

So US politics are pretty fucked up in the sense that things are all very, very far right wing compared to the rest of the world. Anywhere else things like a living wage or Medicare for all would be considered moderate left or even centrist ideas. 

Extreme leftists are in favor of the workers controlling the means of production and abolishing capitalism in favor of a stateless, classless, moneyless society operated under the mantra of "from each accord to his ability, to each according to his means". In other words, degenerates and dirty commies. 

[SwimModSponges]

* But again, that's globally.

The far left in the US wants safe drinking water.

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2 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said:

* But again, that's globally.

The far left in the US wants safe drinking water.

and affordable healthcare.. bunch of crazies

[Skiles]

4 hours ago, SwimModSponges said:

"the internet tried to cancel him" is a weird way to say a lot of people chose not to watch him play video games when he said  "different cultures can't live together in a stable society." 

The Dixie Chicks have a lifetime ban on most country music stations because they criticized then-president Bush.

That sounds a lot more career ending.

Well, when that person's primary source of income comes from creating content on YouTube, be it playing or reviewing games, or doing what he does now which is just making  random weird videos, you're still definitely attempting to end someone's career. Whether they're world-famous musicians or a YouTuber with millions of subscribers, it's someone's livelihood and reputation getting dragged through the mud.

Jon said, among other things, something to the effect of "wealthy blacks commit more crimes than poor whites." Which is idiotic to me. It's an uneducated and poorly researched take. And if someone hears him say that and says to themselves, "I can't enjoy his content anymore because he says this," then I can respect that. That's how you feel. And most people who felt that way just unsubbed and moved on with their lives. But when internet news outlets take it and use it to ruin his career because he has a political or social view that doesn't fall in line with the "moral majority," or whatever you call it, that's super shitty to me, y'know? 

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13 minutes ago, Skiles said:

Well, when that person's primary source of income comes from creating content on YouTube, be it playing or reviewing games, or doing what he does now which is just making  random weird videos, you're still definitely attempting to end someone's career. Whether they're world-famous musicians or a YouTuber with millions of subscribers, it's someone's livelihood and reputation getting dragged through the mud.

Jon said, among other things, something to the effect of "wealthy blacks commit more crimes than poor whites." Which is idiotic to me. It's an uneducated and poorly researched take. And if someone hears him say that and says to themselves, "I can't enjoy his content anymore because he says this," then I can respect that. That's how you feel. And most people who felt that way just unsubbed and moved on with their lives. But when internet news outlets take it and use it to ruin his career because he has a political or social view that doesn't fall in line with the "moral majority," or whatever you call it, that's super shitty to me, y'know? 

why?

shouldnt racism have consequences?

[Skiles]

7 minutes ago, fuggstop said:

why?

shouldnt racism have consequences?

No, I don't think he shouldn't have "consequences" in the way I think you mean. And I'll explain why.

Like I said, if someone's ignorant views make you never want to support him or her again, you're totally right to feel that way. And by the way, in Jon's case a lot of people did. So there were consequences for his actions. He lost fans, and likely a few friends. But we're talking about an entertainer here. Even if it was God damn Robert Downey Jr., these aren't people who are in positions of actual power. They aren't making important decisions, the fate of the world doesn't hang in the balance.

If they say some ignorant shit, what they risk is losing respect from their peers and fans. If that backlash is enough to make it so they can't pay their bills anymore, then ya reap what ya sow. But fuck people who actively try to ruin a person based on their political and social views. That's a dangerous snowball to start rolling down the hill. That's mob mentality, it's torches and pitchforks. "Hey, everyone! He has stupid political views! Let's ruin his fucking life!" Nah. I'm not down with that. If you don't like what a celebrity says, don't buy their albums. Don't see their movies. Don't click their YT videos. But also don't call for their fucking heads on a stick. Live your own life.

That's just how I feel, though. I now a lot of people are very "black and white" in their world view. Someone is either a good person, or a scumbag. But I hate that shit.