lupin_bebop Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 This seriously isn't true at all, definitely not in the campaign where you outlevel everyone and even the toughest opponents don't use items except for z crystals, and anyway levels aren't a factor when you battle someone 1v1 like what we're talking about they're all set to level 50. There are no nuclear items, like they're useful but the best ones are defensive IMO and the best offensive ones have serious drawbacks like costing you HP or locking you into that move until you switch out. When I battle Buddy most of my Pokemon are either level 100 or levels 1-30. Doesn't matter, they're all set to have the stats they'd have at 50. You don't even have to level them up to get most of their best moves anymore, you can just buy heart scales and trade them to tutor your Pokemon moves they learn at higher levels. I've seen videos of the last couple of generations, including this one. The greater percentage that I have seen (I'm talking damn near 90%) have been against opponents who out level and are stronger than the player. The player pretty much wipes them in one move almost every time. Not even with a move that the Pokemon is weak against. Just because of the EV, IV, EXP, Item bullshit that's going on. Case in point here is there. Dude beats Champion Steven with a single level 1 Rattata. Yes, you can train and do all of that, but skill is sandblasted away when you add layers that didn't need to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I've seen videos of the last couple of generations, including this one. The greater percentage that I have seen (I'm talking damn near 90%) have been against opponents who out level and are stronger than the player. The player pretty much wipes them in one move almost every time. Not even with a move that the Pokemon is weak against. Just because of the EV, IV, EXP, Item bullshit that's going on. Case in point here is there. Dude beats Champion Steven with a single level 1 Rattata. Yes, you can train and do all of that, but skill is sandblasted away when you add layers that didn't need to be there. Lmao are you fucking serious right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 That gimmick has nothing to do w EVs or IVs, which have always existed I don't even know what to say to this Just lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Why are you watching so many Endeavor gimmick elite 4 videos anyway? "Damn near 90%" Watch a competitive pokemon match if you want an idea of what the game is actually like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 Oh, endeavor gimmick.......That is pretty useless in competitive play because I'm pretty sure he based his success in that battle on the prefrabricated moveset of his opponent. There are too many things that could counter that easily.....Spikes and roar, or swift or any other move that never misses. I saw one video of this gimmick ran with cosmog vs 100% zygarde and t-spikes. Dude said he had to do that like 50 times before things worked out in his favor. But at any rate, I'm not trying to convince anyone to play, just trying to see who does and get a small battle community going that has more than Nabisco and me in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Even in the uploader's description of the vid LB linked it says "this took FOREVER" Really tho. It's never been easier to make a good competitive team, this gen is extremely accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 Even in the uploader's description of the vid LB loader it says "this took FOREVER" It's never been easier to make a good competitive team, this gen is extremely accessible. Ah, I didn't watch it externally.....Just watched the video here so I didn't even see the description, but I was thinking "This dude is lucky af or rattatta gets an evasion boost of some sort for whatever reason" I didn't watch the whole thing but I'll assume he either used evasion moves or accuracy debuffs. I guess some people have a lot of time on their hands because this will NEVER work consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Says-No Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Battle me ill try to be on showdown tomorrow/possibly tonight ill use god-says-no you can also watch some of my old oras replays on showdown as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 Jesus Christ, what's going on here. https://www.facebook.com/Pokemon/photos/a.242079005914051.53034.230809307041021/1141197599335516/?type=3&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ok, Me and Nabuskin about to hit the arena......Anyone else around that wants in on this tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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