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And yet nobody in the pro-west camp was interviewed. We only get the Russian point of view. Kinda one sided no?

I mean I get why Nabs is upset with western hegemony. We fucked up a lot of countries. But my problem is him saying that the west's crimes somehow absolve Russia of their own. Which they don't.

Then why do you keep trying to justify Putin invading and violating Ukraine's sovereignty?

The problem here was ultranationalism. We backed the pro-west ultranationalists and Russia backed the pro-Russia ultranationalists and the pro-west ones won out. This film features interviews with Putin and the ousted PM who was pro-Russia. It's not exactly an unbiased documentary.

Yeah thanks. Solid B here

Again, you are acting like the entire Ukrainian army is made of Nazis. The article you cited mentions some Neo-Nazi militias WHICH IS A PROBLEM. But Ukraine is not being run by Neo-Nazis. You have offered zero proof of that.

I'm talking about Azov because it's what the two articles you cited are about. They don't mention this 2014 coup which I guess I have to look up. You seriously think that Putin will take Kyiv and "purge all of the Nazis" and leave. Okay, boss. Whatever you say.

MAGA folks eat that shit up

I mean we are actively arming Ukraine against Russia. We have armed and trained questionable militias against Russian hegemony for the duration of the Cold War. Again, Western hegemony is a problem.... BUT so is Russia!

It is negligible. It's one regimen that apparently represents all of the Ukrainian army in your eyes. Do you honestly believe that Russia is there to help Ukraine? Germany invaded Austria to liberate its expatriates too. And a lot of folks called for non-intervention in Europe to let the actual Nazis do whatever they wanted. Germany also wanted to regain its past glory. Legit, what do you think is Putin's endgame here?

It's in the Jacobin article. It talks about how the Azov regiment which is a Neo-Nazi milita that got absorbed into the Ukrainian military was among the many soldiers (not just Nazis) trained by the CIA to defend against Russia. As I believe you stated it's really an ultranationalist problem which of course Ukraine has that problem when Russia has been salivating to take it back into it's sphere.

Russia is certainly a hellhole that was created by Western hegemony. For sure. And that should not absolve it from being a belligerent nation seeking empire.

Bruh, why you gotta even mention the Zionists.

Like clearly there are Neo-Nazis fighting for Ukraine, yes. Were they trained by the CIA? Yeah, probably. There is precedent there. But here is the problem. Putin claims that Ukraine is run by Nazis and they are not. He is grossly exaggerating their presence to justify the invasion. It is an excuse for imperial expansion by Russia. You are swallowing propaganda being fed to you.

Congratulations legit

The cult of tech capitalism has ruined any exciting tech innovations indefinitely. Thanks, Daddy Elon and co

LOL I guess ultraconservative Russia with it's police state is just honky dory.

Proof that isn't from RT please

The problem isn't just western hegemony, bro. It's not so black and white.

Literally the amount of actual Nazis in Ukraine is negligible. It's just an excuse to create just cause for the invasion.

Yeah western hegemony is a certainly a problem, but Putin isn't just about defending Russia, the guy clearly dreams of building a new Russian Empire. His plans are falling apart. I don't think he will nuke himself or Ukraine. Right now he's doing everything he can to maintain his power. There's a reason oligarchs keep mysteriously dying and that's to keep them in line. Things are not looking great.

Putin isn't that dumb. There is no way that it would be seen as a victory. It benefits literally no one. The guy wants an empire, not a nuclear wasteland.

Oh no the consequences of my actions are coming (sheriff here is Mexican American and from San Antonio which is a blue stronghold)

Yeah but you would really need ranked choice voting to be a national thing to give 3rd parties a shot without splitting up an opposition vote to the far right candidates.

That's a very fair point. If the use case is what you describe, and it's purely for self use, it's great. The problem becomes when it's capitalized so yeah. Art should not be treated as capital. Hard agree.