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EPISODE 5: "THE MAGICIAN'S LEFT HAND" REAL OP: The heists continue... Domani sera alle 2! Solo Toonami!! Episode #5 Part 4 of Lupin the 3rd 2 AM tomorrow! 1 great time!! [countdown]

Episode 37: "Scream" OP (one last time): Opfert eure Herzen! by Linked Horizon Eren Jaeger The Titan who ate his mom. Tomorrow night (7/22/17) at 12:30, it's on like Donkey Kong! [and several times as big] ONLY TOONAMI!!

I was up stupid late Tuesday or Wednesday and I tuned in for awhile but I didn't see it.

Already in the works. Starting August 5th, both R&Ms are from S3!

http://www.animemovienight.com/ Sneak peek at Children of Ether, followed by Ancient Magus Bride. And it's playing in my hometown!!

I think that will be a slight minority. Also, they'll probably start running topicals for the 11:30 during/after the 8 this week. All in all this is a smart move, which BTW the "official" schedule corroborates: http://www.adultswim.com/videos/schedule My on-screen guide does not, however, but I'm recording the 11:30 this week anyway because I feel the one on the AS website is more accurate. If I took a wild guess as to "why now?" All I can think is SDCC and the fact that they want better ratings for JoJo Part 3 as compared to AOT S2.

I REALLY hope Stardust Crusaders fits the bill!

I'd only go for that if the whole thing was repeated from 12:30 to 5 AM!

It's my estimate, based on a number I picked up somewhere a couple of years ago that, I'll admit, might have been adjusted up or down. That number is 679,600 adults 18-34 = 1.0 in adults 18-34. Lupin got a 0.29 in adults 18-34, and 0.29*679,600 = 197,084, which of course rounded to the nearest thousand is 197K. As for the other 326K-ish viewers, since there were 282K adults 18-49, that means 282K-197K=85K of them were between 35 and 49 (like me). However, that still leaves 241K unaccounted for in Adults 18-49. My best guess, considering the fact that 50+ was extremely low, and the huge ratings for males 12-34, is a lot of them were teenage boys 12-17. That's not saying all 241K of them were, no, probably more like 100-150K if that. I guess a lot more kids stay up and watch Toonami on Saturday nights than we think, but would you really want your 8-year old to watch Tokyo Ghoul?? There's also the fact that it takes a LOT of viewers to equal one ratings point in P50+, so even though the 0.07 it got is super low, it may actually be a greater percentage of 50 and over than we realize.

Yeah, but how good of a sell is 197K viewers 18-34 watching Lupin at 2 AM? It's certainly better than anything ELSE airing at 2 AM, at least for now. SportsCenter is in reruns at that point so it will likely continue to be even through Football season.

I gotta admit you have a point!

"Shit the bed" seems to be the common vernacular nowadays!

It ain't that bad, but I would say nostalgia viewers in their 20s and 30s is definitely the biggest audience! Also, COME ON, TOEI! You're just gonna force us to make a worse deal for it next year if you don't play ball! Adult Swim is NOT 4Kids! They KNOW what they're doing!

They need to do this pre-Toonami: 8 PM DB Super 8:30 Rick & Morty x2 (2 Sundays ago premiere followed by last Sunday's premiere) 9:30 American Dad x2 10:30 Family Guy x2 There's really not that much AD left on the [as] schedule right now, and Saturday could use a couple of episodes so it finishes strong! They don't even need to encore later in the night--just play 2x at 9:30 PM!

You're right, though the 8:30 PM Samurai Jack rerun is actually lowest of the night. It was a mistake believing Super's audience could be split like this, and its premiere "sneak peek" at 8 PM. That's useful to anyone who only watches Super and then just wants to party all Saturday night, as was apparently the case this week. Restoring new episodes to 11:30 and making the 8 PM showing an encore of the previous week as was the case with DBZ Kai in 2015 and 2016 would be best if they can do it. But as it is, an unadvertised "sneak peek" plus an advertised "premiere" that is actually a rerun just doesn't seem very smart at all! Also, why not encore DBZ Kai at 8:30 instead of Samurai Jack? Just give it a try and see what happens? TOTAL VIEWERS RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 637,000 8:30 PM Samurai Jack S5 456,000 (71.59%) 11:00 PM Family Guy 1,019,000 11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 855,000 (83.91%) 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 741,000 (86.67%) 12:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 659,000 (88.93%) 1:00 AM Tokyo Ghoul 575,000 (87.25%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 555,000 (96.52%) 2:00 AM Lupin The 3rd 523,000 (94.23%) 2:30 AM Naruto: Shippuden 504,000 (96.37%) 3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 442,000 (87.70%) 3:30 AM Samurai Jack S5 419,000 (94.80%) TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 606,750 That average would be a low for 2017 if not for the AOT marathon. Super did even worse with 18-49: ADULTS 18-49 RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 334,000 8:30 PM Samurai Jack S5 218,000 (65.27%) 11:00 PM Family Guy 659,000 11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 522,000 (79.21%) 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 446,000 (85.44%) 12:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 392,000 (87.89%) 1:00 AM Tokyo Ghoul 338,000 (86.22%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 312,000 (92.31%) 2:00 AM Lupin The 3rd 283,000 (90.71%) 2:30 AM Naruto: Shippuden 257,000 (90.81%) 3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 221,000 (85.99%) 3:30 AM Samurai Jack S5 215,000 (97.29%) TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 346,375 Again, 2nd lowest of 2017 just atop the marathon. Hopefully more people will watch next week? At this point, hope is pretty much all we can do. CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES Total Viewers Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - 848,800 (25 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (11:30 PM) - 1,079,920 (25 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 1,000,192 (26 episodes) Attack On Titan Season 2 - 786,364 (11 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 694,786 (14 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 794,603 (58 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 540,750 (4 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 841,985 (165 episodes) Ghost In The Shell HD - 501,545 (22 episodes) Adults 18-49 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM, Estimate) - 412,160 (25 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (11:30 PM) - 654,040 (25 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 604,231 (26 episodes) Attack On Titan Season 2 - 470,364 (11 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 427,571 (14 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 473,983 (58 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 307,000 (4 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 467,369 (148 episodes) Ghost In The Shell HD - 308,545 (22 episodes) Adults 18-34 (Estimated) Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - 264,125 (24 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 408,500 (26 episodes) Attack On Titan Season 2 - 310,727 (11 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 286,000 (14 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 214,250 (4 episodes) DBZ Kai: Final Chapters is about to drop below a million and 600K 18-49 on average and that's pretty scary. http://programminginsider.com/ratings/final-nationals/saturday-final-nationals-ae-wins-prime-time-demos-live-pd/

And the loser is... *drumroll* 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 741,000 12:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 659,000 (88.93%) 1:00 AM Tokyo Ghoul 575,000 (87.25%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 555,000 (96.52%) 2:00 AM Lupin The 3rd 523,000 (94.23%) 2:30 AM Naruto: Shippuden 504,000 (96.37%) 3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 442,000 (87.70%) Tokyo Ghoul!! Still, an 87.25% retention isn't THAT bad! http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-7-15-2017.html "Adult Swim’s late-night line-up fared as follows: DRAGON BALL Z down 0.07 to 0.35 (the primetime episode was down 0.02 to 0.26), ATTACK ON TITAN down 0.03 to 0.31, TOKYO GHOUL down 0.03 to 0.26, LUPIN THE 3RD down 0.02 to 0.22, HUNTER X HUNTER down 0.03 to 0.24/555K, NARUTO down 0.03 to 0.20/504K, and GHOST IN THE SHELL down 0.03 to 0.17/442K." One year ago, One Punch Man premiered with 1282K total viewers, 815K 18-49, and about 571K 18-34. Saitama saved us then, but can Jotaro now? Also, OPM may be a year old now but Toonami has NOT lost the rights! You can stream the first episode now, plus the last 2 with no cable log-in, and many others with it!

Not on HBO, because it's a premium service! I doubt 10 million viewers have EVER been a reason for cancellation on cable. On the big networks, maybe. Maybe if something started at 10 million and dwindled to 5 million?

Yes, it's a record. The previous high last season was like 8.89 Million. That's a record not only for Game of Thrones, but for HBO as well: http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/07/17/game-of-thrones-season-7-debut-is-hbos-most-watched-premiere-ever And there IS a replay of the episode taking place this week from 10:20 to 11:20 on Saturday night, which will of course re-air on HBO West from 1:20-2:20. However, I doubt it will affect Toonami all that much, especially since it did pretty bad this week even with no interference from GOT. It might actually go up despite the newest episode of GOT airing opposite it for the umpteenth time. GOT would really have to go down in the ratings to get its premieres moved to Saturday nights, and that just ain't happening!

You ain't kiddin'! GOT got 10.1 MILLION watching it on HBO cable Sunday night, and another 6 million watching its reruns and online. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/game-of-thrones-scores-series-best-audience-with-season-7-premiere/ Oddly enough, Mike Tyson Mysteries fared pretty well against HBO's juggernaught, but DBZ KFC beat Decker and Apollo in the same timeslot the next day: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-sunday-cable-originals-network-finals-7-16-2017.html

Saturday night SEEMED successful on the surface, as numerous shows trended into the top 10, and we even had a character trend in Majin Buu. But as it turns out, the bar was just really, really low. However, I'm going to point out something in the full chart before I post my usual 18-49/18-34 estimates since it might well be considered a mitigating factor: I have no idea what in people these numbers mean, but note that Toonami captured the Top 3 of Men 12-34. Lupin just barely missed the Top 5 at #6, #4 was the DBS 8 PM "sneak" premiere, and #5 was a show that should probably be on Toonami someday (Justice League Action). Toonami also did well in Men 18-49, especially in the 12 AM hour, as DBZ KFC was #2 and AOT was #3. And of course, though the bar is still low, 3 shows in the Top Ten (#3, #5, and #10) in Adults 18-49 and also winning Adults 18-34 is remarkable. Granted, that's over when College Football begins, even if overall numbers go up. Now, for the bad news: 7/15/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) #11 (+1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.32 Estimated 18-34 - 217,000 ( 34.07% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.26 Estimated 18-49 - 333,000 ( 52.28% ) Total Viewers - 637,000 7/15/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters #3 (+1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.47 Estimated 18-34 - 319,000 ( 43.05% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.35 Estimated 18-49 - 449,000 ( 60.59% ) Total Viewers - 741,000 7/15/2017 Attack On Titan - #5 (+1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.40 Estimated 18-34 - 272,000 ( 41.27% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.31 Estimated 18-49 - 397,000 ( 60.24% ) Total Viewers - 659,000 7/15/2017 Tokyo Ghoul - #10 (+1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.34 Estimated 18-34 - 231,000 ( 40.17% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.26 Estimated 18-49 - 333,000 ( 57.91% ) Total Viewers - 575,000 7/15/2017 Lupin the 3rd - #19 (-2) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.29 Estimated 18-34 - 197,000 ( 37.67% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.22 Estimated 18-49 - 282,000 ( 53.92% ) Total Viewers - 523,000 Yes, NOTHING over 750K, not to mention 500K 18-49. Still, I'm sure that when Adult Swim looks at the bigger picture, they'll still be happy because Toonami remains relevant to the Adults 18-34 and Men 12-34 at whom their ads are targeted. Now what does Toonami need to recapture its former success: a stronger lead-in lineup! I imagine viewers might come back if this is what preceded it: 8 PM Dragon Ball Super 8:30 Rick & Morty x2 9:30 American Dad x2 10:30 Family Guy x2 But I might be wrong. A&E's "Live PD" is a juggernaught to which some of Adult Swim's loyal viewers may have jumped ship and probably aren't coming back. But American Dad could fare well if counterprogrammed to it once again.

Cowboy Bebop is up this week (7/17/17-7/21/17), but it looks like it's gonna be Episodes 11-20. Right now through Wednesday, it's 11-15 which are streaming, which means you get to catch the Jupiter Jazz saga in its entirety!

You mean worst retention?? Beats me! (Probably DB Super...)

Toonami had very strong trending this week, as #LupinThe3rd reached the #3 spot, and several other shows trended, including #DragonBallSuper:

All Naruto characters look similar! Your argument is H.S. (Hedgehog Shit) [it might be blue]

Ok, then, I guess I'll just wait until 2019! ONWARD TO GREED ISLAND!