Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) No, it's not about a second term for el presidente Trump... Just picked up an old Proto 1/2"-drive ratchet (#5449) manufactured probably before the mid-sixties. Outside of the ratchet looks great, got some dried grease to clean up, but it's the inside that needs some work. I was thinking naval jelly to remove the rust there (since it's better to convert the rust rather than to remove it), then a good greasing to the innards, but was just wondering if anyone had different or additional tips to restoring old tools? Edited August 9, 2018 by Israeli_Jericho941
KimopoBotar Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 I thought tool restoration was taking a tolerance break from masturbation. 1
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) Not that anyone asked lol... But I thought I'd share some before and after photos. Decided on using Bar Keepers Friend and a fine steel wool brush in the end. Apparently Naval Jelly is bad on chrome parts 😳 Edited August 10, 2018 by Israeli_Jericho941 3
JehutyNinja Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 I don't, I've only dabbled in repairing them, when I worked at Sears... They love their Craftsmen. Only complaint was that damn squirrelly ass ball bearing. Had a tool for them, never around, would just use a Flathead
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 2:12 AM, KimopoBotar said: That came out beautifully. Nice work. Expand Thank you. Quite a bit of elbow grease and research, but worth it for this tool. Should last another 50 years I hope. 1
KimopoBotar Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 3:07 AM, Israeli_Jericho941 said: Thank you. Quite a bit of elbow grease and research, but worth it for this tool. Should last another 50 years I hope. Expand A combination of elbow grease and research can pretty much do anything if you have enough out both.
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 2:16 AM, JehutyNinja said: I don't, I've only dabbled in repairing them, when I worked at Sears... They love their Craftsmen. Only complaint was that damn squirrelly ass ball bearing. Had a tool for them, never around, would just use a Flathead Expand I don't own one with a ball bearing inside the housing so I can't even imagine... Only ball bearing on this one was the one on the driver shaft (what ever it's called), and that had seized up pretty well. Just dropped some 3-in-1 on top and pressed down with a flathead and it worked it's way in.
Rogue_Alphonse Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/9/2018 at 3:44 AM, Israeli_Jericho941 said: No, it's not about a second term for el presidente Trump... Just picked up an old Proto 1/2"-drive ratchet (#5449) manufactured probably before the mid-sixties. Outside of the ratchet looks great, got some dried grease to clean up, but it's the inside that needs some work. I was thinking naval jelly to remove the rust there (since it's better to convert the rust rather than to remove it), then a good greasing to the innards, but was just wondering if anyone had different or additional tips to restoring old tools? Expand I like to use electrolysis and then either steel or copper wool with some polish on the outside or for any chrome type finish of that nature. Usually "heat pruf" or white lithium grease on the inside, but then again, this is a 12 year old 1/2" drive I constantly use with a pipe on the end of it and is held together with electrical tape. 1
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 3:09 AM, KimopoBotar said: A combination of elbow grease and research can pretty much do anything if you have enough out both. Expand Amen to that. One good thing is that I'm now acquainted with Bar Keepers Friend. Bout to use that on all my tools from now on.
KimopoBotar Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 3:13 AM, Israeli_Jericho941 said: Amen to that. One good thing is that I'm now acquainted with Bar Keepers Friend. Bout to use that on all my tools from now on. Expand I've heard that stuff is like magic. I'm going to have to try it.
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 3:11 AM, Rogue_Alphonse said: I like to use electrolysis and then either steel or copper wool with some polish on the outside or for any chrome type finish of that nature. Usually "heat pruf" or white lithium grease on the inside, but then again, this is a 12 year old 1/2" drive I constantly use with a pipe on the end of it and is held together with electrical tape. Expand Right on. Any advantages to electrolysis vs other methods? I was interested in converting the rust or stopping the process completely. The oxalic acid in Bar Keepers Friend removes the rust, but that's about it I think. I used white lithium grease on the innards, it's already started to bunch up though and I just put in a light coating.
Rogue_Alphonse Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 3:19 AM, Israeli_Jericho941 said: Right on. Any advantages to electrolysis vs other methods? I was interested in converting the rust or stopping the process completely. The oxalic acid in Bar Keepers Friend removes the rust, but that's about it I think. I used white lithium grease on the innards, it's already started to bunch up though and I just put in a light coating. Expand There are a bunch of videos on the different solutions you can use but I think those are like naval jelly where they will take chrome of too. Did you use spray lithium or the stuff from a tube?
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) On 8/10/2018 at 3:28 AM, Rogue_Alphonse said: There are a bunch of videos on the different solutions you can use but I think those are like naval jelly where they will take chrome of too. Did you use spray lithium or the stuff from a tube? Expand Yeah that's why I stayed away. Loctites version of Naval Jelly is not safe for chrome according to their website so I stayed way. I was reading up on Oxalic Acid baths and they seem pretty legit. A lot of bikers use them on their chrome frames. It's a 24-hour process though. And used the stuff in the tube since it's what I had laying around. I emailed the folks at Proto's (now Stanley Tools) torque wrench repair headquarters to see what lube they recommended with respect to the tools age. Customer service directed me to them. Not sure if they'll be able to help but it's worth a shot. Edited August 10, 2018 by Israeli_Jericho941
Rogue_Alphonse Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 It looks to be in damn good shape, even with what you just did. I'd think it's fine the way you have it honestly, just keep it dry Gah, I can't find the video where someone used all the different things, but I found this again... the most wholesome video on YouTube. (10:57 I will never get over )
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 4:20 AM, Rogue_Alphonse said: It looks to be in damn good shape, even with what you just did. I'd think it's fine the way you have it honestly, just keep it dry Gah, I can't find the video where someone used all the different things, but I found this again... the most wholesome video on YouTube. (10:57 I will never get over ) Expand Haha, this old man was great. Thanks for sharing
Rogue_Alphonse Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 5:32 AM, Israeli_Jericho941 said: Haha, this old man was great. Thanks for sharing Expand Dude I discovered him researching electrolysis and just ended up watching all his stuff. He's great!
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 6:01 AM, Rogue_Alphonse said: Dude I discovered him researching electrolysis and just ended up watching all his stuff. He's great! Expand I like how he had to stop himself from getting political in there... Just like a grandpa haha
Israeli_Jericho941 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 3:38 AM, Israeli_Jericho941 said: Yeah that's why I stayed away. Loctites version of Naval Jelly is not safe for chrome according to their website so I stayed way. I was reading up on Oxalic Acid baths and they seem pretty legit. A lot of bikers use them on their chrome frames. It's a 24-hour process though. And used the stuff in the tube since it's what I had laying around. I emailed the folks at Proto's (now Stanley Tools) torque wrench repair headquarters to see what lube they recommended with respect to the tools age. Customer service directed me to them. Not sure if they'll be able to help but it's worth a shot. Expand Proto was unable to help on this one. They sell a repair kit for this wrench since it's still in production though. I might pick one up just to replace the springs which have lost some bounce back over the years. Might see if my buddy can sandblast and powder coat the gear/drive assembly as well. Think I found a new hobby at least lol.
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