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during the Hunter Exam that Gon, Killua, Kurapika, and Leorio would be a team, the main cast. These are the characters we would be following for the rest of the series. They even make a promise to reunite when they split up at the end of the exam. This gives the impression the separation will be temporary, and everyone's paths will eventually meet once again. But nope, it turns out this is the Gon and Killua show, with occasional Kurapika side stories, and I guess Leorio died on the way back to his home planet. They do meet up again. Yorknew is notoriously one of the fan favorite arcs. Leorio is even in it. How else was HxH different? Let's go down the list of some of the "brilliant subversions of the shonen genre," shall we? This is stupid. I've stated multiple times that I'm not claiming it's a subversion, nor that being subversive makes something good. You keep putting words in my mouth and expecting me to explain logic I never proposed. And you don't seem to even understand what a subversion is. Oh hey, isn't subversive that a shonen fighter won't have fights? Wait. Off the top of my head, I can think of quite a few shone that don't involve fighting. Yeah, let's play with candles. You know, it reminds me of those games Yami Yugi would play before the cards came into the series. Except there it was actually interesting and fun to watch. So Togashi takes this kind of concept and manages to make it boring and lame. lol no. The "season 0" games were almost universally terrible. I will admit I did like them for how brain hemorrhagingly stupid they tended to be. hurrdurr, we're a gang that trips people with yo-yos. So cool and interesting. We had entire episodes dedicated to sitting and talking, running and talking, tedious, obnoxious tests, hunting for a retro game console, opening a door, climbing a wall, talking to a butler on the phone, playing some stupid dice game. Just, blah. Yeah, it's real "different." But, it's not interesting. Not exciting. Do please lecture me on what was so groundbreaking and mesmerizing about that game Gon played with the butler. Needs more 'sploding boombooms, derpderp. -_' Hey, let's build up an entire arc to the final exam, it will be a tournament. Okay, the way the tournament works is a little different, but that's fine. We're going to get to see some fights. Time for the big blowoff of the exam! Wait, no, no. We're not going to do that. We'll just off-screen it all. Climaxes don't need to be seen on-screen. One credit I will give was the moment with Killua and his brother, probably one of the only great moments in the show up until that point. #neverheardofanticlimaxes The literal point was that Gon didn't feel like he earned his badge. It's supposed to be unfulfilling because the character you're following isn't satisfied. That's the point of anticlimaxes. In the first 30-something episodes the show was unable to establish a believable fantasy world that was interesting and made sense. Or you're not smart enough to put 2 and 2 together. Nobody cares when anyone dies. That's not unbelievable unless you have no knowledge of eastern cultures. A world wide club card with ridiculously great perks and a license to kill is given out freely to people like Hisoka. Because Netero totally came off like a moral high ground and no government would ever be reckless. Especially not in a shonen. Nobody cares when anyone dies and you can pretty much kill anyone at will, but there's a jail. Nope, you still don't know what a license to kill means. License to kill means you can take out authorized targets. Hisoka simply plans to exploit benefits, but murdering civilians is still illegal. I don't know how many times this basic concept has to be explained. I suppose Togashi put the jail in because he thought it was the right thing to do? It's like he's not even sure. It's like you thought really hard about this and are still really dumb. A family of assassins are treated like celebrities and tour groups visit their house, which is just SO WACKY AND FUNNY, but... makes no sense. Or they're glorified bounty hunters.... but it is pretty funny. Really, the show's "logic" is all over the map. I guess this is all just another subversion. You're literally the only person on this forum that brings up subversion, like, ever. We don't need to get our audience to care about the show's world right away, right? Let think of an unconventional show. Ah, how about Moribito? Not always the most action-packed series. And things often aren't handled the way one would expect. Hell, there was a whole episode with Chagum exposing someone cheating at a gambling game of some kind. But, it was an interesting episode. It was fun to watch the way it all played out. There's a lot of conversations, but they're interesting conversations, and you care about the characters having them. For a good while the show builds up a confrontation between two groups, but when the two actually meet, they talk to each other like people and realize they really have no reason to fight. I was clapping my hands right there, because the trope of misunderstanding fueled feuds drives me up the wall. And there are some really great action scenes, and they feel earned. I cared about the characters there. I don't care about much of anyone or anything in HxH, and as I said, the few things I did care about, the show pissed away with its constant puttering around. We get it, not being an action show is only okay if you like the show. That's not really a point against the series. The fact you think a show being good or bad is based purely on your enjoyment of it says more about you than it does HxH. I'm all for unconventional. But whatever unconventional thing you're doing needs to actually be interesting. It's not good just because it's different.

From what I've seen, the consensus is generally that the Hunter Exams are done better in '99. And some of the biggest shortcomings from an adaption standpoint are within the 2011 version, like skipping the intro episode on the island, which coincidentally includes the most significant reason Gon leaves in the first place. And it's really not true that being a more faithful works against the argument. That's really pretty irrelevant, people just like applying significance to it when there isn't a whole lot. Media isn't a linear construct that works simply by translating from page to motion. Fullmetal Alchemist, for example, has an excellent adaption of the early arcs in 2003. Brotherhood tends to get considered the superior version on mere virtue of being "more faithful", but the page-to-page adaption doesn't do Brotherhood any favors and in some ways makes it worse of an adaption, at least during the early sections. Basically everything up to the death of Maes is handled, honestly, somewhat poorly compared to the less faithful adaption in 2003, and even after that it took until something like the 20s to really kick off for me especially with the horribly translated comedy bits every couple minutes. That isn't a slam against FMA:B, I love the series, but it's an example of how being faithful to the manga can be a detriment to the adaption in a way the original source did not suffer from; of which I can attest FMA's manga does not have the same pacing issue, given I read quite a bit passed that point and didn't feel the same content was very uneven in manga-form. '99 simply takes more artistic risks with the show. I appreciate that. It's still a weird show that does weird things. Like when Gon gets poisoned during the exams and spends several days paralyzed, instead of cutting to him pretty much recovered, there's half an episode dedicated to him slowly recovering and contemplating his failure. To my understanding that's not in the manga, and it's certainly not it 2011, but feels really appropriate and I don't think it would really work in a manga regardless.

Because they don't listen to a smug dumpster diving janitor?

Nobody cares what you care about.

Ask her what lady parts feel like and if she'll let you feel hers.

Who fucking cares?

Is there a day that isn't?

Finding weird things in the trash. Having sex with fuggs. What's the difference?

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"Why is the image quality so poor? .... Oh, Photobucket."

Photobucket hasn't been able to make Photobucket work for at least a decade.

Why are you still arguing this? If you break down the root words, it still doesn't mean "irrational fear of homosexuals". It would mean something else, but you're only looking at the root word of "phobia" while ignoring the root word "homo". And no, "phobia" is not exclusive to fear. The definition includes "aversion to". You can have an extreme or irrational aversion to something, but not afraid of it, and still be phobic to it. All you're doing is drawing a pointless line in the sand at the wrong place in order to drag out a meaningless argument you have no footing in.

It has to be conventional to be good? Your complaint is literally "it's weird and I can't handle anything different!" I'm watching Fargo right now. Every season is spent killing a large chunk of the main cast then going to a new cast the next season. Season 2 has a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes and season 3 has a 93%. Or how Twin Peaks would have extended sequences of cryptic surrealism, with that taking up half the finale and an equally large amount of the movie, but it's one of the most influential shows in American TV history. So, yeah, "not conventional" is totally never "appreciated".

"All the fanboys" is just a ludicrously inaccurate generalization. My preference for '99 came in pretty late because I watched 2011 first and took at least 9 months before touching '99. It's more somber, with more contemplative character moments and adds some uniquely high quality filler (some of which is expanded fights). 2011 is probably popular because it follows the source more closely and has Chimera Ant. CA is a ridiculously good arc that's pretty long. 2011 has a more standard upbeat tone, as well.

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I called the Nab x Bucket ship at least a month or 2 ago. What do I win?

Why must you be terrible at everything? How do you manage to suck at trolling a Trump supporter that much, then followup by being proud of your weakass troll?

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I made a thread with a Jurassic Park pun and it got deleted. Literally no reason. Whichever Mod deleted it: Eat a bag of dicks.