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It is basically an entirely different band now with virtually none of the founding members. At least compared to the 90's and early 2000's. I would still love to see them sign with another label and continue to put out music though!

I honestly have not listened to it yet. I will have to check it out! It is there last one under Roadrunner I think.

I love Slipknot's first two albums, particularly Iowa. I can listen to both of them from beginning to end, no matter how many times I have listened to them. So good!

Also, The Hole reminds me of The Hole from Dorohedoro haha

Ah, I see. Thanks Pat! I guess I have been treating GD more like IB, though IB was so long ago for me that I barely remember if political screeching was happening there haha Anyways, nevermind. Carry on everyone! Have a good day!!

Hey guys! Enthralling conversation here, but shouldn't this be in the current events folder? Seems to be a pretty heated political debate haha I am not too familiar with the rules though!

I literally just walked into the house with Taco Bell haha Taco Bell gets a bad reputation. But honestly, they give me the shits the least out of all fast food!

Yea, I think both parts should be about an hour long each. Fingers crossed that Toonami is able to get both!

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Going by the numbers, at its peak R&M was ~1/5 of what the Simpsons were at their peak. So I do no think so.

I can agree with this in regards to the Simpsons. Though I do not think that R&M is on that same level. I sure hope the show is able to revive. As I said, I was a big fan of the first couple seasons.

Mkay, lets look at some actual data since you seem to be missing my point, Ya dingus! I am going to use data on viewership because it is representative of the general sentiments, which will also reflect in things like merchandising sales. This data is right from Wiki. You might notice that it is split into two graphs, and that it might imply that there was jump in viewership around year 2000. But that is not a reflection of more actual viewers, but only a reflection of a change in the way they gathered the stats. Right from the Wiki: "The difference between the rank from season 11 to 12 is not a reflection of a huge audience gain, but rather that the show did better in terms of actual viewers in comparison with other shows." You see, there is no jump, or new peak in viewership around season 12, but a change in their methods. They went from a household metric to an individual viewer one. So in the above data we are seeing a general decline after the first season, throughout the series first 22 seasons.. Lets take a look at R&M data now (From Wiki as well): So, this is viewers per episode of R&M. Notice that this show peaks at season three, as opposed to season one, with an average viewership of about ~2.5m for season three. So R&M does not start to decline until around the third season. But it peaks around 2.5m, not over 10m like Simpsons did.. Shows in general follow this trend of decline and tend not to make subsequently large spikes or dumps unless there are some serious developments, news, scandals, etc. Simpsons spiked around the beginning of the show, and R&M spiked around season three. But under normal conditions, they will both continue to slowly decline until something big changes or they eventually get cancelled. Conclusions: So what does this all mean? Taking a look at the data, it seems that R&M peaked around season three and has started its decline since. Under normal conditions, this would most likely continue in a general fashion as did the Simpsons. But R&M is different from the Simpsons, as others have pointed out in this very post. R&M has an ongoing scandal that is more than likely only going further hurt the show. Viewership and merchandising is going to take a dump unless the show is able to handle the transition carefully. And even less likely is the show pumping after an event like this. If it gets another 10 season maybe, maybe it can gain a new fan base, but I see it less likely that it will last more than another season or two. But who really knows? I understand what you are saying though. I do not think that they are just going to drop the show tomorrow, they obviously want to salvage it with a new season. There is still currently money to be made. But in the coming couple of years if numbers and merchandising continue to drop and money continues to dry up, especially if the new season with new VA's has a drastic drop, you can bet they will consider its cancellation. While this is a possibility, I see it being an uphill battle to get the show to last another 70 episodes given the current events. We will see when the next season is out I guess.

Oooh This is the news I have been praying for! Gonna wait til it comes to the Block to watch it.

Ahah you were right! So best case scenario for Toonami is they get part one and the next part/movie. That is only a couple weekends of programming. Hopefully they have other things line up. I cannot say that I am mad or happy about this news. I am not the biggest fan of AoT but would still like Toonami to get what they can. If the second part is as a movie we probably wont get it, will we? I am not too familiar with the particulars of whatever contact Toonami has anyways.

You see the trend there? This is exactly what I mean. Viewership and merchandising will continue to decline, similar to how The Simpsons did. But they are not facing a big scandal, let alone the firing of their lead VA. Things could turn around but it is more likely that this will only further hurt viewership and merchandising. Not saying there will be no one watching or buying R&M shit, but the scandal/axing will only hurt the show more IMO. Would this mean the just can the show? Who knows, but we wont know until they make another season. They are clearly going to pump out new seasons with new VA's to try and salvage and milk it. Interesting to see what becomes of it.

Pure gold haha I love the way Rip Torn and Tom Green portray the relationship between Gordy and his father. So good. "If this were Pakistan, you would have been sewing soccer balls when you were four!" This movie never fails to make me laugh.

Precisely this. R&M has the chance to turn things around and salvage the show, but it will come down to the risks they are willing to take and what the fan base is willing to watch. But I do think it is going to be an uphill battle. I would love to be wrong though!

So we are thinking that merchandising is just going to keep pumping out or even accelerate? IDK I feel like a lot of casual and dedicated fans have been turned off. They aint gonna sell more merch. And why do you think that people buy merch? Because they view and like the show. I guess time will tell.. Maybe Justin finally saw his shows toys everywhere and that is why he decided to be an asshat and implode his show.

"Ho look honey, our boys a genius. Hes rigged a pulley system so he can eat sausage and work on his stupid drawings." I love how Gordy's dad comes in like he knows exactly what is going on lmao RIP Rip Torn Haha I made sausage for dinner tonight and have been doodling and sketching lately. Made me think of this movie. Gonna have to watch it again soon!

Dude, I am constantly accidentally inhaling soda and pieces of food while I eat. And then I nearly chock to death. Haha it even comes out my nose sometimes! I think I need to slow down and breath while I eat lmao

I have sadly noticed Season two is not as good as the first. I really liked the first season but the first couple episodes of Season two were meh and did not have me laughing as much. I did find the most recent episode to be a bit better though. It makes you wonder how much they can get out of Cusack. With regards to Uzumaki, while I hope that it is good, I do not expect much though. As you pointed out we will only get 4 episodes, and though the manga is short, I do not know if they will be able to adapt it in 4 episodes. Let alone be able to capture the vibes of the manga. It is a bit worrisome though, if R&M does continue to decline, it makes you wonder if Toonami will see more cut backs trickle down to them. Definitely something to keep an eye on. I am already saddened that we are cut down to 3 hours Will be interesting to see what new stuff may be announced in the coming months.

Yea, most of the shorts I have seen recently have been meh. In terms of the newer shows, I like YOLO and Smiling Friends. I am hopeful that the time Toonami has spent on Uzumaki produces something that is good, cause I love the manga, but that does not equate to good ratings. I feel they should take the opportunity to scale back on R&M and move funding to making or discovering something new and good. I love the old school underground ways of [as] throwing the minimum at a project and letting it gain a cult following, because I do not really care about ratings or popularity, but if they want to find a new big, mainstream thing for the block then they will have to take risks and spend money. I do not see them doing that, at least not anytime soon. I would assume they will roll out a new season of R&M and then possibly reconvene on the issue if the next season is a flop. Who knows. Exactly. I fell in love with Season one and by the middle to end of Season three I was already finding it stale. Maybe the show can have a turn around now that Roiland is gone, but I see it more likely to sink further. I just do not see as many fans returning after the scandal in general, let alone the lead VA being replaced. Dedicated fans will return, but I see a further drop off in viewership and merchandising in general. This is certainly a worry, though I do not think it is as serious. At least not in the short-term. I would assume that they have money to keep the lights on from their overlords (maybe not haha) and the success of shows like R&M is more along the lines of profits, considering how successful it has been. But if the next season is a flop, maybe the overlords do not see profits in [as]'s general future and decide to ax us all together! But that probably would not materialize for a year or two, if at all! I just want shows like Venture Bros back :O

Lmao I love Simpsons While a lot of viewers probably wouldn't be able to tell, it is definitely noticeable though. In terms of R&M, it just seems like a sinking ship, not just with the Roiland scandal. I think with continued seasons viewership will continue to drop. But who knows, maybe it will see a revival in numbers.

My point is that maybe it is time to find that new Simpsons show since R&M has gone to shit. Viewership has been dwindling since like season two or three. Imagine Simpsons if they axed Dan Castellaneta.. My point is also that in any business or markets it is wise to diversify and cut losses.

While the cancellation of R&M would start the countdown, I do not see it being the end. If they cancel and are able to pivot that funding to other shows, or even new material, they may be able to transition and diversify. I could see the end of R&M as an opportunity to create new cash cows. But this is a more risky endeavor. I think they will recast and do Season 7, and then seeing the fans response, may keep going after 7, or just cancel if numbers are bad. But who knows. I want them to just end it. We have had 10 years of R&M monopoly and after the first season or two the show got stale. Take that capital and use it on new or existing IPs! But we all know [as] is too neutered and pussy to do it!