mochi Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 someone at some point coined the term as a more broad term to reffer to men who only form romantic attatchement to other men or male identifying people, as a counterpart to the term "Sapphic" which is named for the Greek Poet Sappho of Lesbos who famously made a SHIT TON of Lesbian Poetry and is why the term Lesbian exists to reffer to women who love other women I had never heard the term "Achilliean" to reffer to men who love other men until today so I assume it is very new but I kinda like it ::]:: edit: it also sounds more epic that Gay because Achilles was a greek hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Sappho was bisexual. She wrote a lot of love poetry directed at both sexes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Hound Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I don't pay attention to anything news/media/current event related and I'm glad I don't. I just want everyone to get along and be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Also, seeing as one's fatal weak spot is generally referred to as one's Achilles' heel, I'm not sure that the reference is very complimentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quebecelegy Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 how do you learn this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Hound Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 how do you learn this stuff that's what i mean like wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Sappho was bisexual. She wrote a lot of love poetry directed at both sexes. so was Achilles probably since ancient Greek heroes were all Bisexual also sappho wrote more Lesbian Poetry and is why lesbians are even called Lesbians so she's considered more of a lesbian icon than a Bi one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Also, seeing as one's fatal weak spot is generally referred to as one's Achilles' heel, I'm not sure that the reference is very complimentary. well calling Lesbians Sapphic isn't 100% accurate either since as you suggested Sappho was actually Bi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 how do you learn this stuff in this case, I saw someone mention "Achillean" in refference to a gay character on a TV show and had no idea what it meant (they even showed the "Achillean flag, which was a blue and white pride flag with a Green Carnation on it" so I looked it up elsewhere on the internet and discovered that it's the gender-flipped version of the term "Sapphic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 also, Both Sapphic and Achillean seem to also include Bisexuals calling someone Sapphic just means they express a sexual and romantic attraction to women, doesn't mean they can't also be interested in men same with Achillean, it apparently just means "men who love other men" but doesn't specificially exclude Bi men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I didn't dispute the accuracy (or lack thereof). I said that it wasn't necessarily complimentary. Also, the only time I've ever seen the term "Sapphic" in main stream literature was in Mary McCarthy's The Group, published in 1963. And I have never heard it used in conversation by anyone, regardless of orientation. I have a funny feeling that "Achillean" will go the same way before it even arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 I didn't dispute the accuracy (or lack thereof). I said that it wasn't necessarily complimentary. Also, the only time I've ever seen the term "Sapphic" in main stream literature was in Mary McCarthy's The Group, published in 1963. And I have never heard it used in conversation by anyone, regardless of orientation. I have a funny feeling that "Achillean" will go the same way before it even arrives. yeah neither Sapphic or Achillean are terms I've ever heard in normal conversation mostly just in strange poetry Jams or in countdown lists of various LGBT slang terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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