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41 minutes ago, Poof said:

 Ummm, no?

I'd prefer Biden, but he may as well be a by the books Republican.

Name a policy and Biden is effectively the lite, polite version of Trump.

He opposed desegregation, he opposed gay marriage, he's a war hawk, he fought for decades to gut every social safety net, he's responsible for writing the bill that led to mass incarceration, voted for the Iraq war, he opposed abortion rights until this year [which I don't trust after being staunchly against it for 50 years], favored the war on drugs with minimal evidence to suggest he's changed his mind beyond decriminalizing marijuana which he only appears to have come to as of last year post-campaign announcement. These are, objectively, Trumpian policy positions. Not all are as extreme, but what we can base judgment on are the actions he's taken and the ones he has are inexcusably horrendous.

He isn't nearly as different as you seem to think.

I'm still pissed that the DNC is an anti-democratic shitshow that's forced this blue waffle down our throats. The simple truth is, if he manages to win [much less survive until November for fucks sake], he's such an actually disgusting jackoff that dicking around for 4 years because "better than Trump" is untenable.

I won't tell people who to vote for. Just be educated. The guy's an irredeemable cunt. Being less of one than our current egomaniac crybaby doesn't actually mean Biden is a huge step up.

It is Biden's job to convince people to vote for him. He has refused to do so, and goes so far as to tell people dozens of times not to. The establishment needs to burn in fucking hell already.

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46 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

No, I’m saying that Trump hasn’t done anything substantive, other than the tax cut that won’t be finally sustainable by the time 2021 rolls around.

He's done a fair share of pretty shitty things that Biden could, theoretically, undo.

Defunding medical facilities that provide abortions [I don't trust Biden on the issue], banning trans people from the military [Biden barely even supports gay marriage, so I doubt trans people mean anything to him], cut social welfare programs across thd board [a thing Biden spent decades advocating for], the "human trafficking" bill that made it harder to track down human traffickers and hurt sex workers who are not trafficked [highly doubt Biden would oppose this bill since he's a very firm advocate of harsher punishments on basically everything].... I mean, Trump has implemented quite a few shitty policies, and I can't see much of them being anything Biden would take issue with.

I imagine he'd oppose us becoming a joke among allies thus making negotiations much harder or the assassination of a foreign leader with roughly the authority of our VP, but that's not something he can undo. Ease tensions among allies? He can't fucking talk. And it's not like he can preform a resurrection.

Biden would be better on the basis that he isn't driven by a porcelain ego or the extraordinary recklessness of killing one of the most important Iranian leaders over literally nothing. Just what exactly is there that Biden would want to undo? There's quite a bit that he could try to. I simply don't have the confidence that he would.

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17 minutes ago, stilgar said:

It's a bill that does nothing to stop or even slow human trafficking...

Let me see how you put the spin on this one.

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5 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

Let me see how you put the spin on this one.

Bucket, what do you think the bill does?

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1 minute ago, scoobdog said:

Bucket, what do you think the bill does?

Link the bill.

I'll tell you how it works.

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Why would I need to link for you to tell me what you think the bill says?

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8 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

Link the bill.

I'll tell you how it works.

Lol.

 

Bucket can barely read and thinks he can interoperate what a bill does.

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1 minute ago, TrylSyz said:

I don’t know what the bill says.

It just reauthorized tracking human trafficking.  It doesn’t create a new national database, it doesn’t create any new enforcement tools.  It’s useless.

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Just now, TrylSyz said:

I can read and comprehend a f**k sight better than you can, pea brain.

No you can’t

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5 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

I can read and comprehend a f**k sight better than you can, pea brain.

Lol.

 

Bucket thinks he can read and comprehend.

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40 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

>Opposes human trafficking bill

>Proud Democrat

>Not shocked

The human trafficking bill didn't do much of anything useful. It allowed the feds to go after websites hosting sex worker ads and that's pretty much all.

This makes it harder to find human traffickers and hurts the victims. Previously ads were posted publicly making it simpler for law enforcement to contact, but now many sex workers (whether trafficked or not) resort to walking the streets. With a hosting site, workers had more access to screen potential prospects, wherein the law makes screening a non-option for those who don't have an online alternative to the shutdown sites. Without screening options, it's far more dangerous for victims of sex trafficking.

Rather than cracking down on prostitution by limiting the ability of the worker to have safe encounters, it would be better to legalize and regulate prostitution. This would cut the demand for it to be done by dangerous people when access would be readily available by safe and legal means, it would make the lives of sex workers significantly safer, and since they'd be consider legitimate businesses they would also produce tax revenue.

The bill not only failed at doing even one of the benefits of legalization and regulation of prostitution, but it made things worse for both victims of sex trafficking and those who are willfully in the industry. Didn't help combat other forms of human trafficking, either, given it was basically designed to target sex work exclusively.

 

It's like you read "human trafficking bill" and assume that because it's supposed to stop human trafficking that must be a good bill. It's also extremely unpopular among sex workers.

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7 minutes ago, stilgar said:

Lol.

 

Bucket thinks he can read and comprehend.

Not even Ginguy thinks he can read and comprehend.

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Naraku, bucket likes the bill because he thinks woman shouldn't be having sex for any reason. If the sex worker gets hurt or killed that would make his tiny pecker hard with excitement.

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7 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

It just reauthorized tracking human trafficking.  It doesn’t create a new national database, it doesn’t create any new enforcement tools.  It’s useless.

Oh, I was talking about the sex trafficking one. I'm not even familiar with that one.

I meant the one that went after websites hosting ads. Removing online presence is a bad way of catching them since they lose the digital footprint left by online ads.

Also hurts sex workers who chose to do it.

Also also it reduces the rights of website owners by enforcing restrictions they shouldn't normally be accountable for, specifically user uploads. I believe this was why Pat got so upset over porn not belonging to the poster if I remember correctly.

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30 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

The human trafficking bill didn't do much of anything useful. It allowed the feds to go after websites hosting sex worker ads and that's pretty much all.

This makes it harder to find human traffickers and hurts the victims. Previously ads were posted publicly making it simpler for law enforcement to contact, but now many sex workers (whether trafficked or not) resort to walking the streets. With a hosting site, workers had more access to screen potential prospects, wherein the law makes screening a non-option for those who don't have an online alternative to the shutdown sites. Without screening options, it's far more dangerous for victims of sex trafficking.

Rather than cracking down on prostitution by limiting the ability of the worker to have safe encounters, it would be better to legalize and regulate prostitution. This would cut the demand for it to be done by dangerous people when access would be readily available by safe and legal means, it would make the lives of sex workers significantly safer, and since they'd be consider legitimate businesses they would also produce tax revenue.

The bill not only failed at doing even one of the benefits of legalization and regulation of prostitution, but it made things worse for both victims of sex trafficking and those who are willfully in the industry. Didn't help combat other forms of human trafficking, either, given it was basically designed to target sex work exclusively.

 

It's like you read "human trafficking bill" and assume that because it's supposed to stop human trafficking that must be a good bill. It's also extremely unpopular among sex workers.

Yeah, not like pedophile sex cults have been getting busted left and right the past three years. 

You know, like Nexium or however it was pretentiously spelled. 

And, you know...

Epstein didn't kill himself.

But of course if you buy into that your side has a, somewhat convenient, excuse that Trump had him offed because he was diddling kids. 

Nah, Trump is into superstar models and hates kid touchers. 

Sorry to ruin your fantasy. 

Imagine fantasizing that someone is that awful just to justify hating them. 

Like, actually think about that for a moment. 

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32 minutes ago, stilgar said:

Naraku, bucket likes the bill because he thinks woman shouldn't be having sex for any reason. If the sex worker gets hurt or killed that would make his tiny pecker hard with excitement.

Dude no disrespect to the women of the night but I couldn't give two rinky-dink f**ks about any of them.

Anything that forces predators out into the open to get bagged and tagged is a winwinwin in my book. 

Seriously. 

F**k kid touchers. 

I know there's some people that get caught up in that crap because they were peeing in public and a cop wanted to throw the book at them; but, weed them out and take all the actual predators and queue them up for public beheading. 

Bring back the guillotine and make it a celebratory, televised event every night on prime time television. 

Like the lotto numbers.

Except it's an actual piece of human trash being disposed of.

Until they're all gone.

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9 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

Yeah, not like pedophile sex cults have been getting busted left and right the past three years. 

You know, like Nexium or however it was pretentiously spelled. 

And, you know...

Epstein didn't kill himself.

But of course if you buy into that your side has a, somewhat convenient, excuse that Trump had him offed because he was diddling kids. 

Nah, Trump is into superstar models and hates kid touchers. 

Sorry to ruin your fantasy. 

Imagine fantasizing that someone is that awful just to justify hating them. 

Like, actually think about that for a moment. 

What's that have to do with the bill, though?

There's as much of a reason for Trump to kill Epstein as any other acquaintance that didn't want him talking until there's evidence to the contrary.

 

You've already tried defending his harassment by claiming he can't control his instincts. The guy isn't going to card a woman before he gropes her.

That last part also isn't as good of a point as you think it is, since that's exactly the kind of thing people say before those claims wind up true.

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17 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

Dude no disrespect to the women of the night but I couldn't give two rinky-dink f**ks about any of them.

Anything that forces predators out into the open to get bagged and tagged is a winwinwin in my book. 

Yes, I know you don't care about women bucket. In fact you hate them.

 

Also, how is forcing sex workers to walk the streets get predators "bagged and tagged?" It's almost like you don't understand what you are talking about...

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4 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

I'd prefer Biden, but he may as well be a by the books Republican.

Name a policy and Biden is effectively the lite, polite version of Trump.

He opposed desegregation, he opposed gay marriage, he's a war hawk, he fought for decades to gut every social safety net, he's responsible for writing the bill that led to mass incarceration, voted for the Iraq war, he opposed abortion rights until this year [which I don't trust after being staunchly against it for 50 years], favored the war on drugs with minimal evidence to suggest he's changed his mind beyond decriminalizing marijuana which he only appears to have come to as of last year post-campaign announcement. These are, objectively, Trumpian policy positions. Not all are as extreme, but what we can base judgment on are the actions he's taken and the ones he has are inexcusably horrendous.

He isn't nearly as different as you seem to think.

I'm still pissed that the DNC is an anti-democratic shitshow that's forced this blue waffle down our throats. The simple truth is, if he manages to win [much less survive until November for fucks sake], he's such an actually disgusting jackoff that dicking around for 4 years because "better than Trump" is untenable.

I won't tell people who to vote for. Just be educated. The guy's an irredeemable cunt. Being less of one than our current egomaniac crybaby doesn't actually mean Biden is a huge step up.

It is Biden's job to convince people to vote for him. He has refused to do so, and goes so far as to tell people dozens of times not to. The establishment needs to burn in fucking hell already.

Believe it or not, people do change their views. If Biden is going to protect me as a lgbt person TODAY then that's fine. Idgaf I will take anyone who is going to be on my side. Even back then he was mixed on his views. In 1996, the same time he voted against gay marriage, he voted for prohibiting job discrimination over sexual orientation. Then in 2006 he voted against banning same sex marriage. So yea, looks like he changed his mind, and that's good enough for me. This is not "barely even supports gay marriage." And as a trans person who is my age, I've lived through a massive cultural change in opinion toward trans ppl. It's really amazing to me, and it's changed my life dramatically in so many ways that so many ppl are respectful to me now. Maybe that makes me predisposed to believing ppl can change.

civil rights:

1978: opposed busing except for gov’t-intended segregation. (Jul 2007) 
Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996) 
Voted NO on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
Voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)
Rated 60% by the ACLU, indicating a mixed civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Issue a commemorative postage stamp of Rosa Parks. (Dec 2005)
Rated 78% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 100% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment. (Mar 2007)

When you say he's a war hawk, what else besides his Iraq vote? Bc I know he's always spoken out against the US being the world police. He's always been strong supporter of NATO too esp in his voting record which I think we need really badly right now bc of the damage Trump has done to our alliances. 

I agree with you on his welfare votes. I don't agree with the '96 welfare reform that he voted for, and yes, Sanders is famous for voting against it. Small positive for Biden is that he did vote to keep food stamps from becoming block grants even tho he voted for cash assistance go block grant. And he did co-sponsor the global poverty act which didn't make it unfortunately. He's generally been good w/foreign aid, at least, even if not for welfare domestically. I actually care more about that than welfare here tbh, but it doesn't change that he was wrong about that. 

The violent crime control act that led to mass incarcerations. You're right Biden wrote it. Buuuuut Sanders voted yes on it. It obviously sucks ass, but how can it be a part of Biden's purity test when your guy signed off on it?

Biden definitely didn't "oppose abortion rights until this year." Sooo idk where you're getting that..? he's always supported roe v wade hasn't he? He's really only been against late stage abortions on a viable fetus. Lots of pro-choice type votes:

Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
Voted NO on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
Rated 36% by NARAL, indicating a mixed voting record on abortion. (Dec 2003)
Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
Protect the reproductive rights of women. (Jan 1993)
Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)

With drugs he totally gets that he fucked up. In his personal life he's completely straight edge. So for him to accept that he fucked up and that things need to change shows his maturity since it goes against his personal philosophy toward them. He said he now believes that everyone in prison for nonviolent drug offense should be released, records expunged, and every right restored to them. The guy gets that he's guilty. Put him in office. He's so late in life he might just do it out of the guilt. He's certainly not going to go against the trends of the country and suddenly become 80s 90s drug czar biden. The man knows what he did. Just imagine what he could do if he starts to die while in office and has the power to pardon. So I totally agree his record sucks, but I absolutely disagree that there's "minimal evidence to suggest he's changed his mind" he's been changing his mind since he realized he was wrong about crack being way worse than blow. That was like the very first hint of self doubt and that was like early 2000s.

To me this is not just a "more polite Trump"

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59 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

Yeah, not like pedophile sex cults have been getting busted left and right the past three years. 

You know, like Nexium or however it was pretentiously spelled. 

And, you know...

Epstein didn't kill himself.

But of course if you buy into that your side has a, somewhat convenient, excuse that Trump had him offed because he was diddling kids. 

Nah, Trump is into superstar models and hates kid touchers. 

Sorry to ruin your fantasy. 

Imagine fantasizing that someone is that awful just to justify hating them. 

Like, actually think about that for a moment. 

https://www.masstortnexus.com/mass-torts-news/did-trump-and-epstein-rape-two-underage-girls/

You like conspiracies. Check it out.

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One of the most important takeaways here:

People claim that the economy doing well the past 3 years was due to Obama.

All of a sudden the economy is tanking and it's all down to Trump's incompetence. 

Kinda destroys that narrative don't it.

If Biden wins in November and we see a surging economy can we credit that to Trump's policies and actions?

HA!

Fat chance!

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3 minutes ago, Poof said:

I don't really feel like diving into this again if it's that f**king election year "Jane Doe" case that voluntarily dropped the charges after the election was over. 

If it had any validity CNN would have run a 24/7 ticker about it until there was a no-expense-spared grand jury investigation into the matter and it was settled. 

Very suspect claimant and very suspect case. 

I don't buy it.

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8 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

I don't really feel like diving into this again if it's that f**king election year "Jane Doe" case that voluntarily dropped the charges after the election was over. 

If it had any validity CNN would have run a 24/7 ticker about it until there was a no-expense-spared grand jury investigation into the matter and it was settled. 

Very suspect claimant and very suspect case. 

I don't buy it.

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Yeah.

Gonna need something a little more solid than baseless accusations from Jane Doe and some desperately reaching pictures. 

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4 minutes ago, TrylSyz said:

Yeah.

Gonna need something a little more solid than baseless accusations from Jane Doe and some desperately reaching pictures. 

Gross

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1 hour ago, Poof said:

The violent crime control act that led to mass incarcerations. You're right Biden wrote it. Buuuuut Sanders voted yes on it. It obviously sucks ass, but how can it be a part of Biden's purity test when your guy signed off on it?

I can't say too much about the stuff before this, as it does go against my prior knowledge. From what I've read on Biden, for example, was he only supported gay marriage during Obama's reelection campaign, so I'd have to look deeper into it.

However, I can respond to this annoying "gotcha." He was going to vote 'no' because he opposed it and only conceded to vote in favor after they added protections for victims of domestic violence at his request. It's extremely shitty to compare writing it to this vote, especially when he's continued to stand in opposition to it despite the concession.

1 hour ago, Poof said:

I agree with you on his welfare votes. I don't agree with the '96 welfare reform that he voted for, and yes, Sanders is famous for voting against it. Small positive for Biden is that he did vote to keep food stamps from becoming block grants even tho he voted for cash assistance go block grant. And he did co-sponsor the global poverty act which didn't make it unfortunately. He's generally been good w/foreign aid, at least, even if not for welfare domestically. I actually care more about that than welfare here tbh, but it doesn't change that he was wrong about that. 

Our welfare system is a disgrace. It's completely inadequate and leaves like 25% of Americans in poverty. Our restrictions are so extreme that the programs are effectively a poverty trap. I don't mind giving aid elsewhere, but we should prioritize the country the government is there to serve in the first place.

 

My problem with "people change" is that they only things we have to vote based on isn't some ambiguous "maybe he changed....?" It's the record. You have made some points about his that I haven't seen anyone else actually go over, so those are things I'll need to research more. It would have been nice if he could go over these things himself, but he can't talk or be particularly honest most of the time. And his vetting of generic corporate "centrist" [Republican-lite]s for VP isn't giving a great sense of confidence.

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Oh, and where I got the opposing abortion thing was his continued support of the Hyde amendment up until he got called out on it during the debates this year and I think he's been flipflopping on support/oppose since. The other votes are pretty alright but the Hyde amendment is really bad and basically still supporting it is worse.

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2 hours ago, Nablotson said:

Limp tool

Gindick Limpguy really didn't like that one haha

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23 hours ago, TrylSyz said:

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Wat?

I was forced to make this thread.

I literally have no idea where you got that idea from.

I was more referring to the ones making the videos you and ginguy are posting. 😂But yeah, I guess you can't stop reminding people how awful leftists are everywhere on the board, so you were FORCED to make this thread instead.

16 hours ago, Ginguy said:

Heh heh found this gem from Dr. Karlyn.

Karen Taxonomic Rank

Kingdom: Eradica
Phylum: Gulaga
Class: Tattle-tale-ia
Order: Hypocrite
Family: Busybodae
Genus: Home-alone
Species: karenus

Overbreeding and lack of natural predators have caused this once nearly extinct creature to thrive under current conditions.

How Karens manifest in the real world, particularly in the era of COVID-19

A Karen is a person who is a killer of fun. They are usually bougie, entitled women who will inevitably ask to speak to the manager should you not conform to the way she expects you to behave.

A Karen will not hesitate to call the cops and tattle on neighbors who dare to have a BBQ, and will call you selfish for wanting to protect your freedom while simultaneously trying to impose her wannabe authoritarian view of the world on you. Karens only care about freedom when it comes to their freedom to behave like a Karen.

A Karen will endlessly lecture on the virtues of masks and locking down the economy while simultaneously sitting at home collecting a paycheck and not giving a shit about the 100,000 small business owners who have permanently shut down their life’s work as a result of fear porn and mass hysteria.*

Although most people identify a Karen as a woman due to the distinctive Karen haircut many of them have, do not be fooled. They can also identify as male or non-binary and still be referred to as a Karen. Karen is not a gender, nor is it a haircut. Karen is a state of mind.

 

*Emphasis added.

 

Added some emphasis of my own.

16 hours ago, Ginguy said:

Democrats lead to misery, illness and death. Science doesn't lie.

 

Except when it comes to climate change.... apparently.

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9 hours ago, SwimModSponges said:

WHAT THE FUCK GUYS WHY ARE YOU POSTING WORDS NOT VIDEOS. 

 

You know Bucket is never going to watch something that says against a Trump law.

Plus, he went from "lol opposed to human trafficking laws? #leftists" to "I don't care about prostitutes" the moment it was explained.

Almost like he doesn’t actually care about fighting human traffickers. 🤔

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Can't upset China....

 

 

Fuck China.

Free Hong Kong.

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