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Cartoon Network unceremoniously dumps Thundercats Roar online, no plans for TV airing

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Such is the fate of the franchise that’s been with Toonami since the beginning.

https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/thundercats-roar/exodus-part-1-episode.html
 

https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/thundercats-roar/exodus-part-2-episode.html
 

The Bean Mouth trend is on its way out, mostly because these shows don’t make money and don’t draw product.  I feel like this is the equivalent of the old Friday Night Death Slot.

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Loaded fine for me. It's honestly not any worse than anything else the network shows. And they get points for using the original 80's themes. 

 

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I wonder what the hell this is doing in the Toonami section though.

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4 minutes ago, elfie said:

I wonder what the hell this is doing in the Toonami section though.

Thundercats is a Toonami vet, so I post direct sequel/spinoffs here.

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The 'bean mouth' trend isn't a bad thing per se. As long as it's being applied to original characters / shows, it has a chance because then it's part of that particular show feel.

When you apply it to something like 'ThunderCats' which already existed, has a certain style associated with it that doesn't allow for this weird chibi-fail downgrade animation, and still has living fans of the original series from the 80's, it's going to hit a wall. And this hit a wall with a very audible splat. 

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I give the show 1 out of 10 just for having Tygra's theme

 

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I see this as a good thing. The character design itself is super fucking lazy, as it mimics about three or four cartoons I can name off the top of my head.

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14 hours ago, Jman said:

Such is the fate of the franchise that’s been with Toonami since the beginning.

https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/thundercats-roar/exodus-part-1-episode.html
 

https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/thundercats-roar/exodus-part-2-episode.html
 

The Bean Mouth trend is on its way out, mostly because these shows don’t make money and don’t draw product.  I feel like this is the equivalent of the old Friday Night Death Slot.

It probably will still air on CN at some point but I expect it to move to HBO Max eventually.

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Oh man, I totally forgot about this! :D

Well, got about what it deserves, I guess.

One thing I remember was trying to find Youtube videos shitting on it and mostly all I could find were idiots ranting about SJW nonsense.  Not sure how they managed to pull that out of this, but okay.

But yeah, canceled the awesome 2011 series (holy shit it's that old now I feel old,) but then make this crap?!

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On 1/10/2020 at 8:09 AM, Jman said:

Such is the fate of the franchise that’s been with Toonami since the beginning.

https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/thundercats-roar/exodus-part-1-episode.html
 

https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/thundercats-roar/exodus-part-2-episode.html
 

The Bean Mouth trend is on its way out, mostly because these shows don’t make money and don’t draw product.  I feel like this is the equivalent of the old Friday Night Death Slot.

they did the same to the new Megaman cartoon

 

I feel really bad for Thundercats as a franchise

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as an aside I feel mixed about this show

 

the team making it clearly had knowledge of the original and were trying to pay homage to it (considering they're using the original OST) and the animation is actually top budget.....but the art is some of the ugliest I've ever seen even, and the writing is very clearly "see Generation Z kids we made this show for you Lol we're Randum!, dank memes brah!" to the point that it's painful to watch

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I have no horse in this race, but... LOL. I wonder if they deathslotted it because they were actually scared by the bean mouth controversy.

11 hours ago, Sketch said:

It probably will still air on CN at some point but I expect it to move to HBO Max eventually.

Now that I think of it, I wouldn't be shocked if this happens to High Guardian Spice as well. I wouldn't hate that one either, but there's no good reason to stick it on Crunchyroll.

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It’s not confirmed, but it seems everyone involved is looking for work, which means this is probably a one and done.  
 

Have fun being squeezed between TT Go reruns.

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I watched the first two episodes and I found it decent if not a little too obnoxious at points. If you think highly of Lion-O or Mumm-ra then these versions will be a tough pill. Lion-O is a well-meaning overly enthusiastic buffoon and Mumm-ra is played off as quite a joke despite also being shown as an intimidating threat to be reckoned with. Tygra is the den mother and the butt of most of the abuse, Panthro was "the cool one", Snarf seems to be a random plot device and there's not much else to be said about Cheetara and the twins so far. It abridges the "apslotion" of Thunderra, the escape of the ThunderCats and the pursuit of the mutants. It both drenches itself in the 80s source material while also showing it not amount of reverence. The tone was decidedly goofy even when discussing serious things.The Berbils voiced by Dana (Master Shake) Snyder were my favorite part, they were pretty funny. Patrick (Dio, Franky) Seitz' Mumm-ra was entertaining to me at least. The animation is well done for the zany style that they were going for. It reminded me a lot of the Henry and June segments from KaBlaam as well as O.K. K.O. but the animation is arguably more fluid than those.

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On 1/11/2020 at 1:29 AM, OwlChemist81 said:

Were they TRYING to distract people with this crap and get them to miss the finale of Infinity Train Book 2!?

Y'know, I only just learned about this show as this second season started. Admittedly haven't paid a whole lot of attention to CN for a bit. But it seemed pretty decent (by CN standards), from what I saw. Bit of a shame it'll probably never get much attention.

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Something I’ve noticed and it speaks to how badly the Western animation industry has fallen off, is that the only people defending the show claim to know people who worked on it, or are clearly angling for a job. 

It’s nepotism of the worst sort.

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10 hours ago, Jman said:

Something I’ve noticed and it speaks to how badly the Western animation industry has fallen off, is that the only people defending the show claim to know people who worked on it, or are clearly angling for a job. 

It’s nepotism of the worst sort.

In a general defense of this, no one wants to see their friends' project fail or their friends be unemployed because of a project failing. 

Even chibi-fail animation with a script that was already basically written ~30 years ago still takes time and energy. That's time and energy that has no returns unless the project succeeds. When in the midst of a project, having cheerleaders on your side can be the little boost you need to keep going. I can't fault the cheerleaders wanting to be cheerleaders even if I question their public rational [ is it so wrong to just say you want your friend to succeed instead of making up something stupid like 'this is the show I would have wanted to watch rather than the original version that I hate...because it turns out I was only 3 at the time it was on' ? Like people aren't going to find out about that ] . 

As for the angling angle, that's why I hate the whole idea of 'networking' - it's not enough to have talent for a job, you are expected to coat-tail ride on someone else just to get a chance at all. -.-;

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11 hours ago, Jman said:

Something I’ve noticed and it speaks to how badly the Western animation industry has fallen off, is that the only people defending the show claim to know people who worked on it, or are clearly angling for a job. 

It’s nepotism of the worst sort.

The only people I'm seeing promote it are a few English dub VAs who actually worked on the show. They haven't come off too badly.

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2 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

In a general defense of this, no one wants to see their friends' project fail or their friends be unemployed because of a project failing. 

Even chibi-fail animation with a script that was already basically written ~30 years ago still takes time and energy. That's time and energy that has no returns unless the project succeeds. When in the midst of a project, having cheerleaders on your side can be the little boost you need to keep going. I can't fault the cheerleaders wanting to be cheerleaders even if I question their public rational [ is it so wrong to just say you want your friend to succeed instead of making up something stupid like 'this is the show I would have wanted to watch rather than the original version that I hate...because it turns out I was only 3 at the time it was on' ? Like people aren't going to find out about that ] . 

As for the angling angle, that's why I hate the whole idea of 'networking' - it's not enough to have talent for a job, you are expected to coat-tail ride on someone else just to get a chance at all. -.-;

Ain't nothin wrong with a little dick ridin

 

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11 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

In a general defense of this, no one wants to see their friends' project fail or their friends be unemployed because of a project failing. 

Even chibi-fail animation with a script that was already basically written ~30 years ago still takes time and energy. That's time and energy that has no returns unless the project succeeds. When in the midst of a project, having cheerleaders on your side can be the little boost you need to keep going. I can't fault the cheerleaders wanting to be cheerleaders even if I question their public rational [ is it so wrong to just say you want your friend to succeed instead of making up something stupid like 'this is the show I would have wanted to watch rather than the original version that I hate...because it turns out I was only 3 at the time it was on' ? Like people aren't going to find out about that ] . 

As for the angling angle, that's why I hate the whole idea of 'networking' - it's not enough to have talent for a job, you are expected to coat-tail ride on someone else just to get a chance at all. -.-;

I could rant for hours about the issues with nepotism and insular industries, but you see it in the fact that everything looks the same unless you outsource to Japan, Dungeons and Dragons jokes that no one in the age demo gets because the writers all play it while no one else does, and what is often framed online as veiled threats saying “don’t make fun of our show or you will NEVER get a job in animation.”

And yeah, hindsight is 20/20 and all because 2011 Cats was getting ripped into for its unlikable cast and non-ending.  But people saw this serious show that didn’t get an ending replaced with the overdone Western bean mouth shows which all use the same jokes, have the same people defending it, and then they wonder why everyone is so mean.  It’s gotten to the point where the Teen Titans Go people are going to make an episode entirely about defending Roar from fans of the original and the 2011 remake.

https://heroichollywood.com/teen-titans-go-roasts-thundercats/

When Netflix released its top 10 lists for most viewed shows, absolutely none of the CalArts remakes or Avatar clones made it in any category.  No She-Ra, no Dragon Prince, (but Boss Baby made it, so yeah), etc.  Meanwhile the Colossal Titan mural still greets people leaving Penn Station and Madison Square Garden two months after Anime NYC.

This era of cheap western parodies is coming to an end, and I feel like Thundercats Roar will be the tail end of the trend.  Especially with WarnerMedia now clamping down on their purse strings and Netflix essentially being All Hands on Deck for their originals.

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This is gonna be an absolutely glorious shitshow!

I predict Roar will replace Bakugan: Battle Planet on Sunday mornings at 7 AM...

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