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32 minutes ago, Blatch said:

I don't know. Could be that people think there's value in rewatching it. Or there could be lots of folks like me who haven't seen it, and anything that Toonami touches should turn to gold, right? Also...

Because it's good.

I mean, this is objectively the best original Toonami has aired since the final season of Samurai Jack. Not to knock anything that came out in the interim, but if you look at the shows on a case-by-case basis: the FLCL sequels had promise but turned out to be either mediocre or unfitting for the franchise, ditto on the former point for Fena (at least it looked great), Blade Runner was part of a valuable franchise but might have been a strike against it (maybe people didn't want to learn the lore?) and it had downright desultory pacing, and for as fun as Shenmue was, being tied to an obscure video game franchise didn't do it any favors. If nothing else, Primal has a neat concept, is a rare example of adult-oriented animation that doesn't trade in crude humor, and has megaton talent behind it in the form of Genndy.

But by all means, feel free to ignore all of that and say that you just don't know. We've done this dance several times before. 🤧

 

so in other words it appears that the solution to toonami's problems are reruns of good shows that they haven't aired in quite sometime or they've only aired on adultswim but not toonami proper

maybe that's what should lead the block moving forward since Toonami Originals haven't exactly been the most exciting thing on the block and I'm not too sure if Yashahime S2 or Food Wars S5 would be a good lead show

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Primal is holding Rick & Morty better than Shenmue and Black Lotus most likely because it’s freaking good and not actually overplayed compared to most AS originals. It’s been off the air for a year and a half before it recently returned. Had it been airing regularly since 2020 then it probably would not be finding as many eyeballs right now. It really makes me wonder how well season 2 premieres could do on Toonami. The Saturday Rick & Morty episode seems to be just as good of a lead in as the Sunday one right now, so why not? If they try to premiere it at 10 or 10:30 on Sunday then it probably won’t do much better than the reruns are doing on Toonami.

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41 minutes ago, Sketch said:

Primal is holding Rick & Morty better than Shenmue and Black Lotus most likely because it’s freaking good and not actually overplayed compared to most AS originals. It’s been off the air for a year and a half before it recently returned. Had it been airing regularly since 2020 then it probably would not be finding as many eyeballs right now. It really makes me wonder how well season 2 premieres could do on Toonami. The Saturday Rick & Morty episode seems to be just as good of a lead in as the Sunday one right now, so why not? If they try to premiere it at 10 or 10:30 on Sunday then it probably won’t do much better than the reruns are doing on Toonami.

do you think any rerun fitting that same criteria would be doing as well as primal reruns(A Good Show that's been off tv for a year or more)or not?

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1 hour ago, CountFrylock said:

do you think any rerun fitting that same criteria would be doing as well as primal reruns(A Good Show that's been off tv for a year or more)or not?

Probably not just any good rerun that hasn’t aired in a while. But there’s really no other options Adult Swim can provide for Toonami after Primal’s good will is spent.

Even though it hasn’t been aired regularly in a while, I don’t think Samurai Jack season 5 would fair nearly as well.

Though I’d appreciate the balls it would take to rerun Space Dandy at the top of the block, that would probably flop.

I do wonder how Harley Quinn or Young Justice would do in that position.

My expectation is that midnight will be covered by Primal season 1, Primal season 2 (as an encore at least), Uzumaki and Housing Complex C for the rest of the year.

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1 hour ago, Sketch said:

Probably not just any good rerun that hasn’t aired in a while. But there’s really no other options Adult Swim can provide for Toonami after Primal’s good will is spent.

Even though it hasn’t been aired regularly in a while, I don’t think Samurai Jack season 5 would fair nearly as well.

Though I’d appreciate the balls it would take to rerun Space Dandy at the top of the block, that would probably flop.

I do wonder how Harley Quinn or Young Justice would do in that position.

My expectation is that midnight will be covered by Primal season 1, Primal season 2 (as an encore at least), Uzumaki and Housing Complex C for the rest of the year.

i haven't bothered thinking about harley quin or young justice on the block because i know WB would never allow that to happen....they acknowledge toonami when they need something to be promoted and then they go back to not giving them anything

with the door closed on crunchyroll titles   DC Titles being available only for special purposes and sentai's status being unknown due to the amc buy-out

that doesn't leave them with many options to fill the block moving forward

there's only so many originals they can pump out in a year and solely relying on viz wouldn't get them anywhere

 

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How about THIS to kick off the month of June?

https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-saturday-6-4-2022-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html

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Ass Class's Penultimate Episode cracked the Top 10! The late Koro-Sensei may have been riding Fang's compact T-Rex tail in his final days, but either way, whomever sneaks into that 12:30 slot the week after next has some pretty big octopus tentacle shoes to fill!!

Lupin and One Piece cracked the Top 20 and all premiere shows at least made the Top 50! Wonder when either of those happened last? One thing's for sure: post-originals Toonami is on a surprising roll early this summer!

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For those who wondered, PRIMAL made the Top 200 Reruns with Episode 3:

http://www.ratingsryan.com/2022/06/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-may-29.html?m=1

And as for Episode 4:

"The Adult Swim line-up performed as follows:  PRIMAL up 0.03 to 0.17/348K, ASSASSINATION CLASSROOM up 0.01 to 0.13, LUPIN THE 3RD steady at 0.11, ONE PIECE at 0.11/0.09 compared to last week’s 0.11/0.10, NARUTO steady at 0.08, SHENMUE steady at 0.08/168K, and ATTACK ON TITAN steady at 0.07.138K."

Biggest Toonami rating of the year so far, unless I'm mistaken!

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Someone please tell me what episode of Seinfeld aired at 2:30 on Saturday to get that high an 18-34 demo rating,

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1 hour ago, OwlChemist81 said:

For those who wondered, PRIMAL made the Top 200 Reruns with Episode 3:

http://www.ratingsryan.com/2022/06/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-may-29.html?m=1

And as for Episode 4:

"The Adult Swim line-up performed as follows:  PRIMAL up 0.03 to 0.17/348K, ASSASSINATION CLASSROOM up 0.01 to 0.13, LUPIN THE 3RD steady at 0.11, ONE PIECE at 0.11/0.09 compared to last week’s 0.11/0.10, NARUTO steady at 0.08, SHENMUE steady at 0.08/168K, and ATTACK ON TITAN steady at 0.07.138K."

Biggest Toonami rating of the year so far, unless I'm mistaken!

Primal is on fire! It was most likely another very good week for Saturday comedy, particularly Rick & Morty and the 11pm American Dad.

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2 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

Someone please tell me what episode of Seinfeld aired at 2:30 on Saturday to get that high an 18-34 demo rating,

Seinfeld is a brand-spankin' new acquisition by Nick At Nite; that's why it gets to even show up in that chart.

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Ass Class just barely misses the 300K+ Club with its epilogous final episode:

https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-saturday-6-11-2022-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html

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Unfortunately, Lupin fell HARD after that, and then One Piece recovered but not by much. Only Shippuden missed the Top 50, checking in at #52 with 163K viewers and a 0.07 in Adults 18-49.

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"The Adult Swim line-up performed as follows:  PRIMAL steady at 0.17/355K, ASSASSINATION CLASSROOM steady at 0.13, LUPIN THE 3RD down 0.03 to 0.08, ONE PIECE at 0.09/0.08 compared to last week’s 0.11/0.09, NARUTO down a tick to 0.07, SHENMUE down 0.03 to 0.05/116K, and ATTACK ON TITAN down 0.04 to 0.03/104K."

PRIMAL took a tiny step up, cracking 350K, and Ass Class followed suit but everything else dropped off quite a bit. At least AOT stayed over 100K.

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Well that doesn’t bode well for Lupin airing directly after Primal. Probably gonna lose 100,000 viewers from it every week.

Nice to see AC finish so high. It came so close to 300,000.

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6 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Ass Class just barely misses the 300K+ Club with its epilogous final episode... Unfortunately, Lupin fell HARD after that, and then One Piece recovered but not by much. Only Shippuden missed the Top 50, checking in at #52 with 163K viewers and a 0.07 in Adults 18-49.

So that's what happens when I put off first priority Ass Class to Monday instead of Sunday... Neat.

[fun fact: I still have yet to watch last week's Shippuden]

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Unfortunately, it looks like the second half of PRIMAL may not do as well on Toonami as the first...

https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-saturday-6-18-2022-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html

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Despite being absolute gold, that Lupin episode just couldn't match up to its predecessor Ass Class as viewership in that timeslot dropped by approximately half. And while One Piece missed the Top 50, it also managed to stay over 100K, but Shippuden did not, though the 2nd episode rebounded a bit. It will be interesting to see if the 3 AM hour continued that trend and managed a 6-figure viewership.

However, we still don't know yet if PRIMAL also had a weak night, and we'll find out later!

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Well folks, PRIMAL did indeed have a weak night, and BOY did it EVER:

"The Adult Swim line-up performed as follows:  PRIMAL down 0.07 to 0.10/183K, LUPIN THE 3RD down 0.01 to 0.07, ONE PIECE at 0.05/0.05 compared to last week’s 0.09/0.08, NARUTO at 0.04/0.04 compared to last week’s 0.07, SHENMUE down 0.01 to 0.04/90K, and ATTACK ON TITAN up 0.02 to 0.05/89K."

I wonder what the hell happened? Was there some kind of weird "Juneteenth" lead-in?

Also, at this point, the block "freshness" is as follows:

Genndy Tartakovsky's PRIMAL - 2020 rerun
Lupin The 3rd, Part 6 - 2021
One Piece x2 - 2012
Naruto Shippuden x2 - 2014

Shenmue - 2022 rerun
Attack On Titan - 2022 rerun

Well, it is what it is. I think we're almost at the point where Lupin effectively becomes a 2022 show so there's that.

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14 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

I wonder what the hell happened? Was there some kind of weird "Juneteenth" lead-in?

There could've been, the frontdoor schedule on [as]'s site has been frozen for over a week now so we'd have no way of knowing without having actually watched it.

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According to Swimpedia, it was just a normal Saturday for Toonami's lead-in:

8:00/5:00 King of the Hill: Life: A Loser's Manual

8:30/5:30 King of the Hill: Dia-bill-ic Shock

9:00/4:00 Futurama: Decision 3012

9:30/4:30 Futurama: The Thief of Baghead

10:00 American Dad!: Haylias

10:30 American Dad!: The 42-Year-Old Virgin

11:00 American Dad!: Surro-Gate

11:30 Rick and Morty: Gotron Jerrysis Rickvangelion

12:00 Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal: Scent of Prey

https://sites.google.com/site/swimpediaiscoming/adult-swim-schedules/2022

 

It's weird--it's like the effect of losing Family Guy last year, but the only thing we actually lost was Ass Class!

I guess we'll have to see if this was just a "bad night" or if this trend continues...

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I stayed for a rerun of Primal that I've already seen then bounced. No one's gonna stay for this lineup, sorry fellas.

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16 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

According to Swimpedia, it was just a normal Saturday for Toonami's lead-in:

8:00/5:00 King of the Hill: Life: A Loser's Manual

8:30/5:30 King of the Hill: Dia-bill-ic Shock

9:00/4:00 Futurama: Decision 3012

9:30/4:30 Futurama: The Thief of Baghead

10:00 American Dad!: Haylias

10:30 American Dad!: The 42-Year-Old Virgin

11:00 American Dad!: Surro-Gate

11:30 Rick and Morty: Gotron Jerrysis Rickvangelion

12:00 Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal: Scent of Prey

https://sites.google.com/site/swimpediaiscoming/adult-swim-schedules/2022

 

It's weird--it's like the effect of losing Family Guy last year, but the only thing we actually lost was Ass Class!

I guess we'll have to see if this was just a "bad night" or if this trend continues...

So it was the normal shows, the question is how did they do? I'm guessing Rick & Morty got less than 0.15 though I couldn't tell you why.

If AC was the reason why Primal did so well then at the very least it was evident that AC didn't pair so well with Titan but maybe being the 2nd show on the block was enough to get more people watching the classroom? One night of data won't say one way or another by itself.

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Posted (edited)

I originally posted a link here to Swimpedia's schedule archive, but I see Al beat me to the punch on it. So I guess I'll come up with a different reply. Hmm...

[as] didn't do anything major for Juneteenth (outside of a Lazor Wulf marathon, but those happen every week), but they did air special bumps that explain the holiday a bit, plus a few that prefaced special shorts from Black creators. Check it all out:

One factoid the video doesn't mention is that the Union general who told the slaves in Texas they were free shares a first name with me. 😯

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On 6/22/2022 at 11:27 PM, Daos said:

I stayed for a rerun of Primal that I've already seen then bounced. No one's gonna stay for this lineup, sorry fellas.

sad but true...right now Lupin is the freshest thing on the block

and while i enjoy lupin i realize that it's not everyone's cup of tea

it's certainly not something that will keep the average american tuning in week after week by itself

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>Lifetime original movie scores 0 points with men ages 12-34

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Primal did better this week, but Annie's Encino Woman act bombed in AOT:

"The Adult Swim line-up performed as follows:  PRIMAL up 0.02 to 0.12/264K, LUPIN THE 3RD up 0.02 to 0.09, ONE PIECE at 0.08/0.06 compared to last week’s 0.05/0.05, NARUTO at 0.05/0.05 compared to last week’s 0.04/0.04, SHENMUE steady at 0.04/103K, and ATTACK ON TITAN down 0.01 to 0.04/74K."

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