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16 hours ago, crackymckrackin said:

Good luck. 

thanks. they're moving along again today. working hard to get ahead of schedule, in anticipation of rain for the next 7 years. pouring the slab in the restroom and utility areas, rat walls on every exterior wall (i didn't ask for it but ok, he's the pro) and also the slab in the bar area. if they get all that done today, they have the rest of the week to get ready for pouring the rest of the slab in the public areas. shit, if the weather holds off, he might be done by the end of the week. 

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check that. pouring the buildings *possibly* today, if they can get the cement trucks to show up. otherwise, tomorrow. then forming up the rest probably tomorrow/friday and pouring early next week. might have to get some pics to see if scoob and cracky approve ;) 

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11 hours ago, wacky1980 said:

check that. pouring the buildings *possibly* today, if they can get the cement trucks to show up. otherwise, tomorrow. then forming up the rest probably tomorrow/friday and pouring early next week. might have to get some pics to see if scoob and cracky approve ;) 

Bring em on.

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10 hours ago, crackymckrackin said:

Bring em on.

cement trucks aren't available til friday now, so they're forming up some more today and pouring tomorrow if weather allows. we've had rain every night this week, including a tornado that slid just north of town last night, so everything's pretty saturated. supposed to rain again tonight and tomorrow, but if it's not too bad we'll get something done anyways.

can't wait for the wet season to wind down. it's been a bitch of a spring.

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23 hours ago, wacky1980 said:

 in anticipation of rain for the next 7 years.

Goddamn, what was that biblical flood, 40 days and 40 nights? That's pansy shit. Try SEVEN FUCKING YEARS.

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30 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

Goddamn, what was that biblical flood, 40 days and 40 nights? That's pansy shit. Try SEVEN FUCKING YEARS.

i mean, there's no end in sight and it's already been ongoing for the last week, so...

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12 hours ago, wacky1980 said:

cement trucks aren't available til friday now, so they're forming up some more today and pouring tomorrow if weather allows. we've had rain every night this week, including a tornado that slid just north of town last night, so everything's pretty saturated. supposed to rain again tonight and tomorrow, but if it's not too bad we'll get something done anyways.

can't wait for the wet season to wind down. it's been a bitch of a spring.

Yeah, cement and rain don't mix.  Lost a month on a project in February because of the rain.

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Posted (edited)

It's going down this morning, weather be damned. Poured the bar and working on the restrooms as we speak.

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20 minutes ago, wacky1980 said:

It's going down this morning, weather be damned. Poured the bar and working on the restrooms as we speak.

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Watch after they leave it starts to downpour 

Mother  nature is funny at times

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15 minutes ago, helpme said:

Watch after they leave it starts to downpour 

Mother  nature is funny at times

the forecast says it's supposed to hold off til after 4pm. that means it will probably start in 10 minutes. *looks at radar* yeap, about ten minutes.

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How thick a slab and what's the PSI?  Both make a difference in how fast it sets.  Also, did they use an accelerant?

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the slab is only 3-4". i don't know the other factors. i did ask this morning if they were concerned about weather, and they were quick to say no. so :shrug:

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21 minutes ago, wacky1980 said:

the slab is only 3-4". i don't know the other factors. i did ask this morning if they were concerned about weather, and they were quick to say no. so :shrug:

You should probably ask.  The plans will tell you what the PSI should be, usually 2500 - 3500.  The concrete guy could up it to 4500 or higher at no extra cost if he wants to beat the rain, however, with the faster set time comes the possibilities of finishing issues.  More importantly, you need to ask about an accelerant:  they're not used often (usually only in situations were you have freezes) because improperly used admixes can affect structural strength (something that's more critically important with structural slabs or precast structures) but you can never be too careful about contractors taking shortcuts.

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54 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

You should probably ask.  The plans will tell you what the PSI should be, usually 2500 - 3500.  The concrete guy could up it to 4500 or higher at no extra cost if he wants to beat the rain, however, with the faster set time comes the possibilities of finishing issues.  More importantly, you need to ask about an accelerant:  they're not used often (usually only in situations were you have freezes) because improperly used admixes can affect structural strength (something that's more critically important with structural slabs or precast structures) but you can never be too careful about contractors taking shortcuts.

damn, DROPPING that knowledge.

they've already pulled off some of the forms and it looks like they've done a decent amount of finishing as well. i went by a little bit ago but they were at lunch. the rain (and another tornado) missed us to the north by about 30 miles so we're in the clear again until maybe around 6-8pm. 

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6 minutes ago, wacky1980 said:

damn, DROPPING that knowledge.

they've already pulled off some of the forms and it looks like they've done a decent amount of finishing as well. i went by a little bit ago but they were at lunch. the rain (and another tornado) missed us to the north by about 30 miles so we're in the clear again until maybe around 6-8pm. 

As long as the finish looks good.  Are you going with a flooring or is it going to to be exposed concrete?

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1 minute ago, scoobdog said:

As long as the finish looks good.  Are you going with a flooring or is it going to to be exposed concrete?

the finish looks real good so far. going smooth in the bar because i want to be able to squeegee it off, plus it will have work mats on it. the bathrooms are going to remain exposed for now, but i'm not opposed to laying something down in there if it needs it.

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On 5/24/2019 at 1:25 PM, wacky1980 said:

the finish looks real good so far. going smooth in the bar because i want to be able to squeegee it off, plus it will have work mats on it. the bathrooms are going to remain exposed for now, but i'm not opposed to laying something down in there if it needs it.

Stain and seal. Tile grout holds piss smells. You can do amazing things with stain nowadays. 

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2 minutes ago, crackymckrackin said:

Stain and seal. Tile grout holds piss smells. You can do amazing things with stain nowadays. 

Would not recommend concrete stain.

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we're probably going to leave the concrete exposed for now. i expect we'll seal the interior floors, but as far as the entire slab goes, that's a conversation i've yet to have with the contractor. at any rate, the rest of the slab was formed up today and is scheduled to be poured tomorrow, weather permitting. fucking FINALLY.

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13 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Would not recommend concrete stain.

I would, and have.  If installed correctly it will last as long as tile even in high traffic commercial areas. 

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1 hour ago, crackymckrackin said:

I would, and have.  If installed correctly it will last as long as tile even in high traffic commercial areas. 

But an integral color would still last longer.  Even when properly installed, stains are prone to wear patterns and they require maintenance.  If you want a more vibrant color, it's worth it because those are difficult to integrate into concrete mixes; if you're looking for a more maintenance free floor, they're not really worth it.

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Also, a property installed stain requires a contractor that specializes in it.

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Posted (edited)

it's raining concrete
from outta the truck
concrete
that grey goopy muck
how much does it cost
we don't give a fuck

IT'S RAINING CONCRETE!

so they're pouring the slab right now. also, my boys really like that raining tacos song. this seemed like a good way to squash that ear bug.

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didn't squash it. shit.
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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, scoobdog said:

Do you have a water tower behind your place?

Retired for maybe 20 years, but yeah. The lot it stands on was bought up a few years ago by a local non-profit, restored (exterior), and designated as a local landmark for whatever reason. Personally, I think it's a crushing death just waiting to happen, but I guess it looks kinda cool from 50 yards away. 

This is the whole thing, from outside my office door at the bank.

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o hai, there's my truck too.
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I thought so.  Our town's "mascot" is an old water tower because the town itself is named after the artesian wells that used to be everywhere.

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I wish we had artesian wells. My parents have one back North. Everyone around here is hooked up to the Mississippi River. It's exactly as good as you'd expect. 

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all done with them seemint fellers as of this morning. now the focus turns to structures. that contractor is coming in around noon today with some materials, and we're gonna map out the next couple weeks of work. since i'll be on bank vacation for that whole time, we're gonna hit it as hard as we can. we just might get this thing open on time after all...

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stage design had to be changed a bit because the concrete wasn't formed up per the dimensions i gave them. it's a minor adjustment really, and i'm almost happier with the changes than i was with the original design. my carpenter is a good dude. he picked up my suggestion to change the design and got right to work on it. he's working on a saturday because he didn't have anything else to do today, according to him. we should be done with the stage deck now on monday. good stuff.

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we got the deck *almost* done yesterday. still need to finish the stairs and add the skirt. we also had a lot of the lumber delivered for the rest of the project. i got begged to go back into the bank today because they're super short-handed :| so here i am at my desk, instead of on my 2 week vacation. it kinda works out i guess, because the carpenter was taking a half day off this morning for a doctor visit, and he'll be picking up some hardware we still need for later this week. and i'm adding a day or two to the back end of my vacation. if the rain holds off, we should have all the walls up by the end of this week. we're forecast to get 3" of rain thru the weekend. tropical threat "Invest 91L" is gonna make a mess across the central third of the country this week/end. can't catch a break.

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Posted (edited)

In front of the bar, restrooms to the left.IMG_20190606_161120_01.thumb.jpg.de764e0b4d19ec6f42ebcc43e61951bd.jpg

Entry from the alley. Bar to the left, restrooms to the right.IMG_20190606_162047_01.thumb.jpg.711189314a42824114ea82627d71f8a1.jpg

I never got a picture of the stage so maybe I'll remember to do that tomorrow. We finished the deck Tuesday and then stood up these walls over the last 2 days. Tomorrow we're building truss and hopefully tossing them up on top.

After these last few days, I'm reminded how old and out of shape I am. It's not pretty.

 

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50 minutes ago, wacky1980 said:

In front of the bar, restrooms to the left.IMG_20190606_161120_01.thumb.jpg.de764e0b4d19ec6f42ebcc43e61951bd.jpg

Entry from the alley. Bar to the left, restrooms to the right.IMG_20190606_162047_01.thumb.jpg.711189314a42824114ea82627d71f8a1.jpg

I never got a picture of the stage so maybe I'll remember to do that tomorrow. We finished the deck Tuesday and then stood up these walls over the last 2 days. Tomorrow we're building truss and hopefully tossing them up on top.

After these last few days, I'm reminded how old and out of shape I am. It's not pretty.

 

Are you framing?

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37 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

Are you framing?

personally yes, but under direction of the carpenter. we've been friends for years, and it's just the two of us working on this part. i have enough knowledge to be useful, plus i'm on vacation anyways and he doesn't have anyone else helping him. and i don't have to pay myself for the labor, which is a nice break.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, wacky1980 said:

personally yes, but under direction of the carpenter. we've been friends for years, and it's just the two of us working on this part. i have enough knowledge to be useful, plus i'm on vacation anyways and he doesn't have anyone else helping him. and i don't have to pay myself for the labor, which is a nice break.

I like doing framing.  Especially balloon framing.

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On 6/7/2019 at 1:34 AM, scoobdog said:

I like doing framing.  Especially balloon framing.

i feel like this has something to do with patrick...

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nothing much new in the last couple days. put up the header across the north wall and added top plate on friday. also got electrical wired and turned on (finally), which is nice because now we don't have to run ac cords across the alley to the bar every day. built 19 truss (trusses? trussing?) this morning and quit early. depending on weather and mood, we may put up the truss tomorrow. probably gonna wait til monday though. 

we've also been on a slow shopping spree lately. picked up some light fixtures and a POS (going with square for now because i'm lazy in that regard). got 3 new tv's and a small sound system for house entertainment. also nabbed a sweet wall plate with drip tray for the draft setup...quite possibly my favorite purchase of this whole thing so far. i mean, damn that's sexy.

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roof trusses are up. we bought the hardware store out of t111 panels, so we didn't get much done with the walls beyond a little bracing. had the sheathing for the roof delivered as well, and it should be going up in the morning. we cut the day short because the plumbers came back to tie into the sewer main, and they're too in-the-way to do much of anything.

took a couple more pics for progress updates. this is kinda confusing without a floor plan handy, but it's where we left off for the day.

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and the stage, which has been finished for a week and is now doubling as storage until we get some more work done. this will be sealed and painted before we open, and probably also get some sheathing on the interior walls/ceiling eventually. might wait until we install a house sound / lighting system in the off-season. i'm not 100% on the stair design because it sticks out and kinda ruins the whole "clean face" idea i was working towards, but it's hiding a concrete fail and nothing about this project has turned out 100% how i've envisioned it. close enough, i guess.

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we're off tomorrow afternoon to the state capital to resubmit our liquor license application in person (the bastardos denied our mail-in app last week because the cert of insurance wasn't valid until 6/22, so we had the agent re-print it with an effective date of 6/10). we should be returning with a live license in-hand, ready to start building inventory. also, we're picking up a frozen cocktail machine i found on ebay while we're in town. over the next couple weeks, we'll be testing recipes in that bad mofo at home. this job definitely has perks.

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