The1gairon Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Huh. So all dub actors are D-listers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, elfie said: Huh. So all dub actors are D-listers. In 1997, when ADV employed non-union talent for a dub that was often held up as what was wrong with dubs? Let’s just say standards have come a long way in 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 That’s weird. The dub might have a little age to it and not as much polish, but it’s the version everyone already knows. The three remake movies also brought back almost the entire cast so Americans have already had 15 years of familiarity with the cast. Akira and pre-Miramax/Disney Ghibli films could get away with it because obscure anime dubs had barely any mass exposure from the public before Disney or Bang Zoom/Streamline came in to the rescue. Or with Sailor Moon, the rerun worked to amend the 90’s-isms and political correctness that sanitized numerous characters’ storylines. With Eva, the English dub that’s being replaced is the one that everyone knows and doesn’t need to be fundamentally fixed other than a couple pitchy delivery errors from Shinji or Misato’s lines. As with most redubs, it’ll be interesting to see how it goes, but it’ll also be way more jarring because of the uncanny valley that comes from hearing a fresh polished contemporary dub of an older grainier anime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Jman said: In 1997, when ADV employed non-union talent for a dub that was often held up as what was wrong with dubs? Let’s just say standards have come a long way in 20 years. Oooooh I get what you're saying better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cidz Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 i was happy bc recently i had been trying to get a couple coworkers to watch it. especially one after he watched FMA brotherhood and said he enjoyed it bc hes into philosophy so i was like well if u like philosophy have u checked out neon genesis evangelion?? and another one is a weeb too but a newer weeb so he hasnt rly seen much older anime. and im happy bc i havent seen that anime in quite awhile and i rly enjoyed it. tho idk about remaking the dub? well maybe? shinji was kinda a bit too whiney for me in the original dub. also i think i watched the sub anyways? im not sure i prolly flipped. either or... but dat live action cowboy bebop eeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....i saw what they did with death note sooo iddddddddkkkkkkk. maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Considering the money Netflix spent to renew the license to Friends, they just oughta have the cast of that redub Evangelion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 https://www.polygon.com/2018/12/11/18135919/neon-genesis-evangelion-netflix-funimation-interview?fbclid=IwAR0M155a7VNWVduLJPZc3pRJP8--iCs7WxIPKvr1KRkBEleqm1XvkGG5CqQ I see Funimation CEO Gen Fukunaga is a man of culture as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Big words from the guy who just inked exclusivity with Hulu. Or does standing out among Brooklyn 99 and The Handmaid’s tale not count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 oh please, Funimation sold out when they went Hulu exclusive after leaving Crunchy. i ain't shelling out money for another streaming service that i'll never use more than twice a month, i got Netflix for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 hours ago, elfie said: https://www.polygon.com/2018/12/11/18135919/neon-genesis-evangelion-netflix-funimation-interview?fbclid=IwAR0M155a7VNWVduLJPZc3pRJP8--iCs7WxIPKvr1KRkBEleqm1XvkGG5CqQ I see Funimation CEO Gen Fukunaga is a man of culture as well. awfully Salty since they gave the finger to Toonami by signing that Hulu deal AND had every god damn chance to relicence Eva themselves and just never did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Hachiman said: oh please, Funimation sold out when they went Hulu exclusive after leaving Crunchy. i ain't shelling out money for another streaming service that i'll never use more than twice a month, i got Netflix for that. I guess my other problem with what this article is saying is that Funimation still has videos on their own site and their apps! So to me that doesn't define "exclusivity". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, mochi said: awfully Salty since they gave the finger to Toonami by signing that Hulu deal AND had every god damn chance to relicence Eva themselves and just never did THIS DOESN'T MEAN TOONAMI WON'T GET FUNIMATION SHOWS ANYMORE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, elfie said: THIS DOESN'T MEAN TOONAMI WON'T GET FUNIMATION SHOWS ANYMORE! Give it up, Elfie, you know as well as we do how pessimistic Mochi gets. [no i didn't know that] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 But Jman and Hachiman are saying the same thing as Mochi is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) Funimation got lazy and was outbidded in the end. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation right now about EVA. Edited December 12, 2018 by Hachiman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 53 minutes ago, elfie said: But Jman and Hachiman are saying the same thing as Mochi is! No, I’m saying he’s a hypocrite going on about how anime can’t stand out on a service like Netflix RIGHT AFTER THE INK DRIED ON A DEAL WITH THEIR RIVALS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Jman said: No, I’m saying he’s a hypocrite going on about how anime can’t stand out on a service like Netflix RIGHT AFTER THE INK DRIED ON A DEAL WITH THEIR RIVALS. Because Gen probably knows the Hulu deal doesn't mean they need to put ALL their shows on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 You know, I think Mr. Fukunaga has a point here, but it's misinformed. Companies other than Netflix have snuffed out what should've been tremendously popular shows with a lack of advertising. Just look at Crunchyroll and Planet With. On top of that, it's hard for any one show to make it to the top of the heap when there is so much fucking anime to watch across the entire industry. Shows from opposite services can often cancel each other out. If Evangelion doesn't make much of a splash with the anime community at large when the new dub premieres, I'm sure that'll be attributable to viewers being occupied with stuff like the newest trashy isekai show of the week (of the season) more than a lack of advertising. We need to spare the complaining about how one particular company is screwed up when these problems stretch across the entire industry... but why do that when Netflix has Back Street Girls available to stream right now? Thanks, I love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 These are definitely the salad days when it comes to pure, raw content. It’s available everywhere, and it’s legal. Ideally, the cream rises to the top when it’s publicized and has material to bounce off of. The question is does dedicating a lot of time to EVA but putting it on a smaller outlet attract more or less attention than bringing some attention and airing it next to Friends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 1:08 PM, Jman said: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-12-05/original-eva-english-cast-petition-to-re-dub-series-for-netflix/.140411 The original cast of D listers is petitioning to be part of the redub. Personally I rather Netflix just hired people from their other shows, like one of the Stranger Things kids as Shinji. .......you say that like it would be bad but those kids ARE actors and are around Shinji's actual age so it'd stand the possibility of being okay if they did that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I sold the platinum collection for heroin about 10 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 11:40 AM, Jman said: Personally I rather Netflix just hired people from their other shows, like one of the Stranger Things kids as Shinji. they're having the kids from Stranger things do voices in the Carmen Sandiego reboot...........so you might be spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 But Carmen Sandiego isn't anime. I bet you anything Netflix goes for Bang Zoom or another L.A.-based studio well-versed in anime for this dub. Like, I'm 99.9% positive that's what's gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said: But Carmen Sandiego isn't anime. I bet you anything Netflix goes for Bang Zoom or another L.A.-based studio well-versed in anime for this dub. Like, I'm 99.9% positive that's what's gonna happen. Where’s the fun in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 37 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said: But Carmen Sandiego isn't anime. I bet you anything Netflix goes for Bang Zoom or another L.A.-based studio well-versed in anime for this dub. Like, I'm 99.9% positive that's what's gonna happen. it's sorta trying to LOOK like anime though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, mochi said: it's sorta trying to LOOK like anime though EVERY Western cartoon that isn't for preschoolers or comedy fans is trying to look like anime. It isn't unique to this show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, elfie said: EVERY Western cartoon that isn't for preschoolers or comedy fans is trying to look like anime. It isn't unique to this show. steven universe and star vs. arent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, mochi said: steven universe and star vs. arent ..... KIND-a. The style is less evident there, but it's clearly inspired by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, elfie said: ..... KIND-a. The style is less evident there, but it's clearly inspired by it. well Pink Diamond sort of looks anime-ish but I think she more closely resembles a Disney princess everybody else looks like they escaped from Dexter's laboratory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Now we're grasping at straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Well then...redub... I'm not super excited about that, but at least I have my Platinum boxset to enjoy. The only thing I hope for is that the original dub is made accessible as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Fun Fact: Renaissance Disney characters had their basic body and facial structures modeled after anime from the 70's & 80's. So yes, what the US has been doing for original animation in terms of looking like anime is nothing new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/20/2018 at 1:00 PM, MasqueradeOverture said: Fun Fact: Renaissance Disney characters had their basic body and facial structures modeled after anime from the 70's & 80's. So yes, what the US has been doing for original animation in terms of looking like anime is nothing new. which is rather amusing since Osamu Tezuka said the anime style he created was trying to copy Disney's style So Basically the modern Disney Style is a copy of a copy of their own style 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 It drops 6/21/2019. No samples of the new dub as of yet. I still say if they got $100 million for Friends, they should at least loan the cast out for the dub. Not like Ross is doing a lot these days... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 The downside is that it won't be the original dub, which means this'll be the second time this anime franchise had a major dub actor replacement, the first one being the Rebuild films where a few characters' voices like Rei had to be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 It's confirmed everyone was replaced. Again, I'll chalk it up to Khara banning the actors from returning after the whole Rebuild 3.0 fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunStarHero Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I'm just here to post this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, MasqueradeOverture said: It's confirmed everyone was replaced. Again, I'll chalk it up to Khara banning the actors from returning after the whole Rebuild 3.0 fiasco. To me the Rebuild fiasco was waiting a half hour at a con to see the movie dubbed because something screwy happened behind the scenes, all while being tired and succombing to food poisoning. THat's the only fiasco toward that movie I ever want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MasqueradeOverture said: It's confirmed everyone was replaced. Again, I'll chalk it up to Khara banning the actors from returning after the whole Rebuild 3.0 fiasco. Unfortunate but understandable. PREDICTIONS (assuming a Bang Zoom! dub) Shinji Ikari: Zach Aguilar Rei Ayanami: Xanthe Huynh Asuka Langley Soryu: Cherami Leigh Misato Katsuragi: Erica Lindbeck Gendo Ikari: John Demita (uncredited) Ritsuko Akagi: Katelyn Gault Ryoji Kaji: Xander Mobus Kozo Fuyutsuki: Steve Kramer Toji Suzuhara: Kyle Hebert Kensuke Aida: Brian Beacock Hikari Horaki: Jennifer Losi Kaworu Nagisa: Robbie Daymond Watch me get only one or two of these right, like with Baccano! and Kill la Kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Good predictions! Those can be fun. I just want a legit reason for why they never even bothered to call the original cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheDorks Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I'm mildly interested in the new cast but ehhhhh I was never a fan. Probably because I was a depressed piece of shit myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 They are literally releasing it the last day of spring lol Man hearing the a new dub will be different and some getting use to, but I'm sure it will all be alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Netflix just announced they'll "have no choice but to run ads". This is the end. It CANNOT be a coincidence that this news came only a few weeks after Disney unveiled details about Disney+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, elfie said: Netflix just announced they'll "have no choice but to run ads". This is the end. It CANNOT be a coincidence that this news came only a few weeks after Disney unveiled details about Disney+. ...Netflix themselves didn’t say that. Industry executives are predicting that. Don’t do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 So what if Netflix had a cheaper ad-free option anyway? Hulu does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheDorks Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, elfie said: Netflix just announced they'll "have no choice but to run ads". This is the end. It CANNOT be a coincidence that this news came only a few weeks after Disney unveiled details about Disney+. No they didn't. Why would they change something based on a streaming service that doesn't launch until November? I mean sure they might change something based on how Disney+ does but they'd be stupid to do anything now before waiting to see how that launch goes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/29/netflix-will-have-no-choice-but-to-run-ads-industry-execs-say.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheDorks Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 What part of 'industry execs' means 'Netflix execs'??? I'm pretty sure someone who works at YouTube isn't making decisions for Netflix. There have been analysts saying Netflix is going to run ads for years. And even if they do decide to introduce ads they will most likely copy Hulu's model of "super cheap with some ads or slightly more expensive with no ads". It's not the end of the world. It's a goddamn 20 second ad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Why do you think "industry execs" means "Youtube execs"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheDorks Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Because I know how to fucking read? "Ad executives from YouTube and JPMorgan Chase imply during a panel at IAB’s Digital Content NewFronts that Netflix would have no choice but to start displaying ads and that Netflix is recruiting people to help grow the business." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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