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1 hour ago, elfie said:

Whelp.  Now Toonami's going to expand to ANOTHER half-hour, and will start at 10:30 PM.

Is it safe to say that ratings are now completely irrelevant to how well Toonami does?

Hold on not so fast,

Perhaps this means the lower the Toonami ratings get, the more expansion we shall witness 

 

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5 hours ago, elfie said:

Whelp.  Now Toonami's going to expand to ANOTHER half-hour, and will start at 10:30 PM.

Is it safe to say that ratings are now completely irrelevant to how well Toonami does?

The fact that they probably cant air any other FOX shows on Saturday, Family Guy isn't the powerhouse that is used to be, and that Rick and Morty reruns in primetime arent doing great means that they have nothing else to fill Saturday with that isn't anime.

At least a new show like Black Clover has a chance of bringing some new casual viewers in. Guessing it was a deal they couldn't pass up too since they just shoved it in after DBZ on such short notice.

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Why can't they air FOX shows on Saturday aside from Family Guy? Or do you mean that's their preference?

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"Noooooo we gotta make a whole hour of our new darling show Rick and Morty!"

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11 hours ago, elfie said:

Why can't they air FOX shows on Saturday aside from Family Guy? Or do you mean that's their preference?

They can, but it's likely that the contract they have states they can only show Bob's/AD/FG/Cleveland a limited amount of times per week, so if they wanted to show more FOX on Saturday, they would have to show less on some other day in exchange.

It does look like they are doing just that and putting a Cleveland episode on Saturday at 8, plus moving a FG episode up to 8:30. This eliminates the Super hour and sandwiches Rick and Morty between Family Guy. Very interesting move.

 

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5 hours ago, MasterMoltar said:

They can, but it's likely that the contract they have states they can only show Bob's/AD/FG/Cleveland a limited amount of times per week, so if they wanted to show more FOX on Saturday, they would have to show less on some other day in exchange.

It does look like they are doing just that and putting a Cleveland episode on Saturday at 8, plus moving a FG episode up to 8:30. This eliminates the Super hour and sandwiches Rick and Morty between Family Guy. Very interesting move.

 

More importantly, this makes the DBS episode at 11:00 a true premiere.

I thought that the Toei contract required an earlier showing though, at least that was the impression everyone here seemed to be under.

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Well, 10:30. And that's technically in prime time, so I guess Toei might be accepting.

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Man, it took forever, but on 12/2/17, we shall finally have PRIME TIME TOONAMI!

[just at 10:30]

Wonder how this affects holiday marathons? I REALLY hope they don't decide to marathon Dragon Ball Super yet. Next year that would be OK if it's one and done, but dammit, JoJo and Gundam need some love! We can of course have 9 episodes of Gundam IBO capped off with Bebop and GITS, and 11 episodes of JoJo if they go that route this Christmas/New Year's!

 

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This feels, in a lot of ways, like the last true Ratings Report of an era.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-11-18-2017.html

Final Cable 2017 Nov 18.SAT

11/18/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8:30)   #12 (-3)
Adults 18-34 Rating -  0.48      
Estimated 18-34 -  326,000 ( 36.30% )
Adults 18-49 Rating -  0.38      
Estimated 18-49 -  487,000 ( 54.23% )
Total Viewers -  898,000      
         
11/18/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters   #14 (-3)
Adults 18-34 Rating -  0.45      
Estimated 18-34 -  306,000 ( 40.96% )
Adults 18-49 Rating -  0.34      
Estimated 18-49 -  436,000 ( 58.37% )
Total Viewers -  747,000      
         
11/18/2017 JJBA: Stardust Crusaders - #18 (+4)
Adults 18-34 Rating -  0.41      
Estimated 18-34 -  279,000 ( 43.39% )
Adults 18-49 Rating -  0.30      
Estimated 18-49 -  385,000 ( 59.88% )
Total Viewers -  643,000      
         
11/18/2017 Gundam IBO - #21 (-1)
Adults 18-34 Rating -  0.36      
Estimated 18-34 -  245,000 ( 41.95% )
Adults 18-49 Rating -  0.28      
Estimated 18-49 -  359,000 ( 61.47% )
Total Viewers -  584,000      
         
11/18/2017 Lupin the 3rd - #27 (+5)
Adults 18-34 Rating -  0.34      
Estimated 18-34 -  231,000 ( 46.95% )
Adults 18-49 Rating -  0.25      
Estimated 18-49 -  321,000 ( 65.24% )
Total Viewers -  492,000      

 

Edited by OwlChemist81

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86 percent for Jojo, that's actually the best I've seen it retain Kai in recent memory.

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The block continues to live and die by Super.

I wonder how Screamy McScreamington will take.

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More info:

"On Adult Swim, the primetime DRAGON BALL episodes were down 0.02 to 0.24/628K, and steady at 0.38, while in late-night, DRAGON BALL was down 0.11 to 0.39/818K and steady at 0.34, while JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURE was steady at 0.30, MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM ticked down to 0.28, HUNTER X HUNTER ticked up to 0.28/580K,  LUPIN THE 3RD was steady at 0.25, NARUTO was up 0.05 to 0.25/475K, OUTLAW STAR was up 0.05 to 0.22/408K, COWBOY BEBOP was up 0.08 to 0.24/422K, and GHOST IN THE SHELL was at 0.21/368K."

So now we have:

TOTAL VIEWERS RETENTION        
8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 628,000  
8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 898,000  (142.99%)
         
       
11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 818,000  
11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 747,000  (91.32%)
12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 643,000  (86.08%)
12:30 AM Gundam IBO S2 584,000  (90.82%)
1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 580,000  (99.32%)
1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 492,000  (84.83%)
2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 475,000  (96.54%)
2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 408,000  (85.89%)
3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 422,000  (103.43%)
3:30 AM GITS: SAC 2nd Gig 368,000  (87.20%)
TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE -      553,700  

And as for 18-49, so far we know:

       
Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 0.24  
Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 0.38  (158.33%)
       
     
Dragon Ball Super 0.39  (67.24%)
DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 0.34  (87.18%)
JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 0.30  (88.24%)
Gundam IBO S2 0.28  (93.33%)
Hunter × Hunter 0.28  (100.00%)
Lupin The 3rd   0.25  (89.29%)
Naruto: Shippuden 0.25  (100.00%)
Outlaw Star HD 0.22  (88.00%)
Cowboy Bebop HD 0.24  (109.09%)
GITS: SAC 2nd Gig 0.21  (87.50%)
  AVERAGE: 0.276  
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No. It's actually been lower in total viewers both at 11:30 (7/22, 804K) and 11 PM (7/29, 801K).

Believe it or not, Black Clover will be the first time something other than Dragon Ball franchise has aired at 11:30 regularly since Attack on Titan reruns bombed in that timeslot in early 2015, and also the first time anything other than Dragon Ball shows, Attack on Titan, or Samurai Jack has aired in that timeslot since One-Punch Man's marathon kicked off in that timeslot on 9/3/2016.

Good luck of the 5-leaf clover, Asta!

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Well, a whole week later, THIS finally happened:

programminginsider.com/saturday-cable-final-nationals-christmas-themed-movies-continue-thrive-hallmark-channels/

Adult Swim PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Dragon Ball Super (r) 818 0.39 506
11:30 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 747 0.34 432
12:00a Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 643 0.30 387
12:30a Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphana 584 0.28 356
ProgrammingInsider.com
1:00a Hunter X Hunter (r) 580 0.28 359
1:30a Lupin the 3rd: Part 4 492 0.25 324
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden (r) 475 0.25 325
2:30a Outlaw Star (r) 408 0.22 282
3:00a Cowboy Bebop (r) 422 0.24 311
3:30a Ghost in the Shell: 2nd Gig (r) 368 0.21 273

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Been a while since I've done one of these:

CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES      
Total Viewers      
Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 835,675  (40 episodes)
Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 1,005,488  (41 episodes)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 926,000  (42 episodes)
JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 649,600  (15 episodes)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans S2 - 572,500  (6 episodes)
Hunter × Hunter - 744,041  (74 episodes)
Lupin the 3rd - 499,600  (20 episodes)
Naruto: Shippuden - 808,772  (182 episodes)
Outlaw Star - 426,333  (12 episodes)
Cowboy Bebop - 405,111  (9 episodes)
Ghost In The Shell: S.A.C. 2nd Gig - 364,333  (3 episodes)
       
Adults 18-49      
Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 423,025  (40 episodes)
Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 609,756  (41 episodes)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 559,405  (42 episodes)
JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 404,667  (15 episodes)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans S2 - 369,333  (6 episodes)
Hunter × Hunter - 446,230  (74 episodes)
Lupin the 3rd - 297,650  (20 episodes)
Naruto: Shippuden - 450,683  (165 episodes)
Outlaw Star - 269,833  (12 episodes)
Cowboy Bebop - 251,667  (9 episodes)
Ghost In The Shell: S.A.C. 2nd Gig - 233,000  (3 episodes)
       
Adults 18-34 (Estimated)      
Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 276,632  (38 episodes)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 376,500  (42 episodes)
JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 270,357  (14 episodes)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans S2 - 239,000  (6 episodes)
Lupin the 3rd - 205,000

 (18 episodes)

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47 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Well, a whole week later, THIS finally happened:

programminginsider.com/saturday-cable-final-nationals-christmas-themed-movies-continue-thrive-hallmark-channels/

Adult Swim PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Dragon Ball Super (r) 818 0.39 506
11:30 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 747 0.34 432
12:00a Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 643 0.30 387
12:30a Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphana 584 0.28 356
ProgrammingInsider.com
1:00a Hunter X Hunter (r) 580 0.28 359
1:30a Lupin the 3rd: Part 4 492 0.25 324
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden (r) 475 0.25 325
2:30a Outlaw Star (r) 408 0.22 282
3:00a Cowboy Bebop (r) 422 0.24 311
3:30a Ghost in the Shell: 2nd Gig (r) 368 0.21 273

Cowboy Bebop is slightly beating out Outlaw Star in the ratings all these years later

will the rivalry ever end 

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6 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Been a while since I've done one of these:

CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES      
Total Viewers      
Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 835,675  (40 episodes)
Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 1,005,488  (41 episodes)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 926,000  (42 episodes)
JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 649,600  (15 episodes)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans S2 - 572,500  (6 episodes)
Hunter × Hunter - 744,041  (74 episodes)
Lupin the 3rd - 499,600  (20 episodes)
Naruto: Shippuden - 808,772  (182 episodes)
Outlaw Star - 426,333  (12 episodes)
Cowboy Bebop - 405,111  (9 episodes)
Ghost In The Shell: S.A.C. 2nd Gig - 364,333  (3 episodes)
       
Adults 18-49      
Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 423,025  (40 episodes)
Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 609,756  (41 episodes)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 559,405  (42 episodes)
JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 404,667  (15 episodes)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans S2 - 369,333  (6 episodes)
Hunter × Hunter - 446,230  (74 episodes)
Lupin the 3rd - 297,650  (20 episodes)
Naruto: Shippuden - 450,683  (165 episodes)
Outlaw Star - 269,833  (12 episodes)
Cowboy Bebop - 251,667  (9 episodes)
Ghost In The Shell: S.A.C. 2nd Gig - 233,000  (3 episodes)
       
Adults 18-34 (Estimated)      
Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 276,632  (38 episodes)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 376,500  (42 episodes)
JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 270,357  (14 episodes)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans S2 - 239,000  (6 episodes)
Lupin the 3rd - 205,000

 (18 episodes)

Those averages make me feel better.

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The DBZ power hour is about 20 percent under its average. That shouldn't make you feel better =P

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What does that have to do with the ratings? Aside from, you know, Kakegurui being the alleged hot new Netflix thing I haven't seen anyone talking about.

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7 hours ago, Blatch said:

What does that have to do with the ratings? Aside from, you know, Kakegurui being the alleged hot new Netflix thing I haven't seen anyone talking about.

By "alleged" did you mean "most popular anime of last season? Because it was the most popular anime last season =P

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I maintain that I saw nothing about it from a litany of notable Twitter users. :ph34r:

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8 minutes ago, Daos said:

By "alleged" did you mean "most popular anime of last season? Because it was the most popular anime last season =P

[checks MAL] Holy shit you're right.

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So, an anime about compulsive gambling and bondage was the most popular in the US?

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Back to the ratings, we FINALLY have numbers for November 25:

programminginsider.com/saturday-cable-final-nationals-hallmark-hall-fame-christmas-train-draws-6-3-million-viewers-across-two-hallmark-channels/

Dragon Ball Super (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.)
– 0.721 million viewers (#56)
– 0.25 A18-49 (#37)

Dragon Ball Super (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.)
– 0.648 million viewers (#67)
– 0.24 A18-49 (#40)

Rick & Morty (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.)
– 0.629 million viewers (#72)
– 0.24 A18-49 (#40)

Rick & Morty (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.)
– 0.725 million viewers (#55)
– 0.29 A18-49 (#28)

Family Guy (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.)
– 0.924 million viewers (#37)
– 0.40 A18-49 (#14)

Family Guy (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.)
– 1.118 million viewers (#26)
– 0.53 A18-49 (#6)

Interesting: I would have thought the 8:30 PM episode would still outperform the first, but no, and with the first R&M, the decline just continued from there until the 2nd episode put things back on an upward trajectory that ended with FG breaking a million. But unfortunately, after that, the marathon tumbled. I would have thought there would be more of an uptick in that first episode due to Countdown's finale, but unfortunately, no. But at least the marathon was consistent as most are, and all stayed over 500K/300K 18-49:

Adult Swim PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 680 0.32 413
11:30 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 639 0.31 402
12:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 632 0.31 394
12:30a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 683 0.32 413
ProgrammingInsider.com
1:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 646 0.29 377
1:30a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 607 0.28 359
2:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 607 0.29 379
2:30a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 561 0.27 346
3:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 513 0.24 307
3:30a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (r) 511 0.24 308
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It does appear that way. The regular schedule averaged 563K/349K 18-49 in the month of November. Last Saturday's super-sized 10-piece bucket of DBZ KFC got 608K/370K. The only exception was the November 4th partial lineup from 11 PM-3 AM, which averaged 394K in 18-49. That same timeframe last week fell slightly short at 385K in 18-49, BUT it did beat it in total viewers (632K on 11/25 vs. 614K on 11/4).

 

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5537 last week vs 6079 for the marathon. It may not be higher than every weeks regular schedule but it was definitely higher than last weeks.

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2 hours ago, Daos said:

5537 last week vs 6079 for the marathon. It may not be higher than every weeks regular schedule but it was definitely higher than last weeks.

These figures would be in the hundreds of viewers, an uncommon measure, but I guess just as valid...

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Wow the ratings were the most consistent I ever seen them, for a marathon anyway!

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First Ratings Report of the new era, and we get to know from 10:30 PM-1 AM, as well as Lupin at 1:30, at first.

So how did the earlier start time and Black Clover shake things up? Well...

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-12-2-2017.html

Final Cable 2017 Dec 02.SAT

And, now that the new forums have Rich Text, I'm now going to be displaying those translations in a new format:

12/2/2017     Adults 18-34   Adults 18-49
Time   Show Rating Estimate Retention   Rating Estimate Retention  Rank RankChg
10:30 PM   Dragon Ball Super 0.54 367,000       N/A   0.47 603,000       N/A   #4 +8
11:00 PM   Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters 0.44 299,000 81.48%   0.35 449,000 74.47%   #7 +7
11:30 PM   Black Clover 0.41 279,000 93.18%   0.30 385,000 85.71%   #11 DEBUT
12:00 AM   JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 0.35 238,000 85.37%   0.28 359,000 93.33%   #15 +3
12:30 AM   Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 0.32 217,000 91.43%   0.25 321,000 89.29%   #21 STEADY
1:30 AM   Lupin The 3rd 0.35 238,000 109.38%   0.27 346,000 108.00%   #17 +10
         
                 
                 
                 
                 
                 
                 
                 
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Super barely managed to edge into 1 million, but look at its retention.  Yikes.  Ugh and look at Black Clover!! Only 690K! For a premiere! The online hate must've had an effect on it.

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9 minutes ago, elfie said:

Super barely managed to edge into 1 million, but look at its retention.  Yikes.  Ugh and look at Black Clover!! Only 690K! For a premiere! The online hate must've had an effect on it.

Well, we have to see how Family Guy at 10:00 performed to get a sense Super's performance. Imagine if it actually BEAT it? It also was the number 4 show on the list so thats something. If you you want to blame a show here, its Kai, which dropped a large amount of viewers. But I see some positives here: Black Clover and the rest retained pretty good!

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I'm not sure how you get "Black Clover did really badly" out of this when DBZ Kai actually had the biggest loss of the night, at least from what we know so far. Even JoJo's retained better, though that might be because it had weaker lead-in.

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Ok, I think I finally have this thing in the format I want it to be:

12/2/2017     Total Viewers Adults 18-34   Adults 18-49
Time   Show People Retention Rating Estimate Retention   Rating Estimate Retention     Rank RankChg
10:30 PM   Dragon Ball Super 1,029,000      N/A 0.54 367,000      N/A   0.47 603,000      N/A   #4 +8
11:00 PM   Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters 799,000 77.65% 0.44 299,000 81.48%   0.35 449,000 74.47%   #7 +7
11:30 PM   Black Clover 690,000 86.36% 0.41 279,000 93.18%   0.30 385,000 85.71%   #11 DEBUT
12:00 AM   JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 621,000 90.00% 0.35 238,000 85.37%   0.28 359,000 93.33%   #15 +3
12:30 AM   Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 553,000 89.05% 0.32 217,000 91.43%   0.25 321,000 89.29%   #21 STEADY
1:30 AM   Lupin The 3rd 533,000 96.38% 0.35 238,000 109.38%   0.27 346,000 108.00%   #17 +10
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Gundum and lupin are still missing the toilet and it's all over the floor

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Black Clover getting that low on premiere night is hilarious, in a way. I bet Demarco's punching himself in the nuts over this one.

Ah well, at least Lupin didn't dip below 500k this time.

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Update:

"Adult Swim’s line-up returned from a week off, with DRAGON BALL at 0.47/0.35, BLACK CLOVER at 0.30, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURES at 0.28, MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM at 0.25, HUNTER X HUNTER at 0.24/526K, LUPIN THE 3RD at 0.27, NARUTO at 0.25/506K, OUTLAW STAR at 0.18/396K, COWBOY BEBOP at 0.17/404K, and GHOST IN THE SHELL at 0.16/384K."

Toonami's total viewer average was 585,545. That's actually slight improvement over last month's average.

More to come...

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LOL

Did they even advertise they got BC before this week? I don't watch [as] save for Toonami and I don't recall seeing much in the way of ads. Despite that, it still did fairly well in key demo.

 

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2 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

Black Clover getting that low on premiere night is hilarious, in a way. I bet Demarco's punching himself in the nuts over this one.

If he isn't I hope lazzo is

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12 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said:

Lazzo punching his own nuts, or Demarco's?

Why not both?

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